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Old 08-25-2013, 06:46 PM   #29
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While I agree that ALL ST tires are sub par, I wonder if many issues with them and their replacements could be avoided with this: Correct Track

I honestly think that many failures could be avoided by checking axle alignment. Rusty going through two Goodyear 614's is either a huge coincidence or a sign of another problem. Having to upgrade to 17.5's seems to be masking a larger issue. However, having to upgrade from ST's is just common sense...
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Oh, there are MANY of us who went through multiple G614s. Goodyear replaced the tire, no questions asked, after the first failure (no damage to the RV). Goodyear replaced ALL the tires and paid to repair the damage after the second failure, again no questions asked. They admitted that my tires had issues and promised that the replacements would be better.

I was far from being the only one with this experience - it was commonplace among many of us MS, Excel and other heavy 5th wheel owners; that's why the various manufacturers made the 17.5" tires available for these 5th wheels. Just Google "Goodyear G614 failures" and see for yourself.

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If I had run the tires misaligned, underinflated or overloaded, Goodyear wouldn't have replaced them, paid for the damage and admitted that my 614s were defective.

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If I had run the tires misaligned, underinflated or overloaded, Goodyear wouldn't have replaced them, paid for the damage and admitted that my 614s were defective.

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Actually, GY would have no idea if you were slightly out of alignment. It would never show in the tread, only cause the failure. But never having your alignment checked, you have no idea if you are or aren't. There are so many variables to a tire failure, there is NO WAY a manufacturer could tell why 99% of the time and it's cheaper to just warranty it out than to investigate.
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The replacements ran 3 years with no problems. The originals failed at 2 years 11 months in service and 3 years 2 months in service. The 17.5" Michelins have run over 3 years with no problems.

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Goodyear has a history of tire issues when used on a trailer.

First it was the Wranglers HT that came OEM on RV trailers in the late'90s/ early '00 time frame. They improved the Wrangler and now they have a very good service record in a trailer position.

Next was the Marathon. Most folks know about the Marathons as they had serious issues. Finally in the '03/'05 era ? they were also redone and came with a circled S imprinted in the sidewall. Now they would last 8k-10k instead of the 3k-5k on the older tires.

Sometime in the '08/'09 year Goodyear advertised their improved G614. Now if they indeed were improved we should see fewer reports of failed G614. Of the failed G614 I've noticed the last year or so have been on the 5-6 year old tires. Time and miles will tell if the G614 are indeed improved.
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While I agree that ALL ST tires are sub par, I wonder if many issues with them and their replacements could be avoided with this: Correct Track

I honestly think that many failures could be avoided by checking axle alignment. Rusty going through two Goodyear 614's is either a huge coincidence or a sign of another problem. Having to upgrade to 17.5's seems to be masking a larger issue. However, having to upgrade from ST's is just common sense...
looking at the different trailering websites shows one important factor.

Once a quality LT tire was installed on the same trailer, with no mods, ST type tire issues were all but eliminated or eliminated completely.
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