Towing 3 axle Moble Suites with Ram dually

[rampowerwago]

I know from my research that 3 axle Suites are light on the pin percentage wise.....17% or 18% from what I've seen of actual measurement. This results in a pin weight of around 4400# on a 24000# gvw coach. Just wondering how a 3500 dually would work for one of these. I know the numbers say it would work with some margin, but from those of you towing them, what do you think from your experience?

Not really interested in opinions like, "You really need a 4500/5500/class 8 because......." Due to health issues, any of those are out.

Also posted on Suites Owners Forum.

[memtb]

My personal opinion is... Heck yes!! With a relatively new, one ton dually(increased tow ratings), with properly rated tires....I wouldn't even hesitate! I've got that or more pin weight on a SRW ( seriously upgraded rims/tires), rv grossing out at around 19K. Tow's very good, quite stable. In an extreme situation, if a very aggressive turn is applied.... the rv will dictate the direction of travel,as it outweighs the truck roughly 3 to 1. Pretty much...nothing short of a class 8 will truly control that much mass. And that's not guaranteed!

[DJNCJ]

Those numbers are well within the trucks limitations. Mine is listed at 5600 lbs payload and 24,890 lbs trailer gvwr. It has a 3.73. If I were towing that large I would have a 4.10.

Keep in mind the 24k tri-axle trailer brakes will be stopping about the same weight/wheel as a 16k dual axle. Also, disc brakes (if equipped) will make it that much better... For me stopping is most important. Staying under my weight limitations is second.

[Oldelevatorman]

Not any margin unless you have over 5000# of payload! You tow that with an SRW, you're overloaded! Just because somebody's doing it doesn't make it right!

[memtb]

I was expecting a retort....and was not disappointed!!In my post,I "very" clearly stated "seriously upgraded tires/rims" as to not "mislead" the OP with the intention of post! I never suggested that it was within truck labeled capacities, nor did I suggest that it was legal (for the attorneys in the audience).

2017 specs on a Ram 3500 DRW, 4x4, crew, long box is between 4400# and 4600# (dependent upon transmission type)
I'm guessing (using the SWAG system) that he is within - tho close

My set-up : rims are 5000# rated x 2 = 10,000 lbs.

tires are rated @ 4940# (If at max rated
pressure) - tho not necessary

4940# x 2 = 9880#

Truck weight @ rear (scaled) - 3480#

Available capacity - 6400# I believe that I'm "well" under
that on pin weight

Stopping - the most important and adequately engineered component in the equation on my unit is accomplished by the rv having hydraulic disc brakes and six tires on roadway! Steering would be very comparable between the SRW and the DRW!

[DJNCJ]

Originally Posted by memtb

I was expecting a retort....and was not disappointed!!In my post,I "very" clearly stated "seriously upgraded tires/rims" as to not "mislead" the OP with the intention of post! I never suggested that it was within truck labeled capacities, nor did I suggest that it was legal (for the attorneys in the audience).

2017 specs on a Ram 3500 DRW, 4x4, crew, long box is between 4400# and 4600# (dependent upon transmission type)
I'm guessing (using the SWAG system) that he is within - tho close

My set-up : rims are 5000# rated x 2 = 10,000 lbs.

tires are rated @ 4940# (If at max rated
pressure) - tho not necessary

4940# x 2 = 9880#

Truck weight @ rear (scaled) - 3480#

Available capacity - 6400# I believe that I'm "well" under
that on pin weight

Stopping - the most important and adequately engineered component in the equation on my unit is accomplished by the rv having hydraulic disc brakes and six tires on roadway! Steering would be very comparable between the SRW and the DRW!

Your numbers for the 2017 Ram trucks are off. What you posted are what is listed for SRW not duallys. https://www.ramtrucks.com/en/towing_guide/ (2016 payload and towing is accurate...2017 is not)
5840-5850 are what is listed as payload for the stock dually depending on trim level.

My dually weighs 3660# on the rear axle with full fuel and just me in the cab. It has a labled RAWR of 9750# leaving 6090# to keep it within the labled limit yet it is rated at ~5600.

The OP inquired regarding the DRW capabilities not SRW.

[memtb]

Doug, yes he did ask about the DRW, My thought was....If mine is a capable tow, he should be even better. I guess that I didn't get that across very well. Apologies to all!

[Cypressloser]

I'm not towing a tri axle rv but I'm very familiar with towing tri axle gooseneck trailers and my opinion is, as long as axle weights, gvw and cgvw stays within specs, go for it.
Three axles are safer than two, just be aware at all times what's coming up in front of you, from the side and pushing you from behind.
To be clear, a SRW truck is not an option.

[rampowerwago]

I wouldn't even consider a SRW truck for one of these. It would have to be a dually.

We towed a 38TKSB3 with a dually but wondered how it would be with a heavier trailer.