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Old 09-19-2014, 07:09 AM   #1
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Truck "Squat"

We're looking to move from a MH to a 5th wheel. One problem I'm seeing is maintaining around 6" of clearance between the bottom of the 5er overhang and top of the bed on a 4x4 tow vehicle. Obviously, the hitch can be raised and/or the pin box can be lowered to gain clearance; but then the 5er will tow nose high by several inches.

I know excessive squat of the TV is undesirable, but with a 1-ton dually and a pin weight of around 4k, can anyone give me an idea of how much I can expect the TV to lower when the 5er is hooked up?

Also, how much nose high is too much?
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I have a f250 heavy Duty diesel pulling a 27 footer and my rear bumper goes down about 1 to 1 1/2 inches. My ford is a 2 wheel drive and all stock except new shocks after 102,000 miles. I have a good 8 in clearance between the bed and trailer and my 5er on the open road is dead level.
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Install some airbags, then you can adjust the amount of squat.
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Most duallies ride rear high when empty. When loaded it should sit level
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Install some airbags, then you can adjust the amount of squat.
Will air bags make it sit lower? The problem is the truck is too high.

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We have this problem. We are this Tuesday having a flat bed installed on our truck. Clearance solved. Some raise camper but that was not an option for us.
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Airbags at 5 PSI;
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Airbags at 40 PSI;

Thats a 4X4, while I don't keep the tailgate on, there is lots of room to walk behind the gate when its down in this setup. Plus lots of clearance with the boxrails too.



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You don't mention which brand of truck. The bed rail height is a couple inches taller from bed to top rail, on a GM than it is a Ford. You can lower the hitch considerably on a Ford. Also the Ford DRW's sit a couple inches lower than even their SRW's. My 5th wheel has about 2"-3" more clearance on my Ford than it did on my previous Chevy.
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Depends on the camper you choose also. My Teton sits very low due to its tall ceilings. A 6'6 person can stand upright in our bedroom though. Everything is a trade off. If you buy a cab & chassis and put a hauler bed on it you won't have any issues with clearances.
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Most duallies ride rear high when empty. When loaded it should sit level
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Too many "think" that that is squat. Then they add bags to bring the TV to unloaded ride height. Then they wonder why the RV is nose high and "why does it ride so rough"?
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Mine does squat.....because I have my truck leveled. So it does squat some but it is no big deal. The ride is still fine and handles great. A little squat don't hurt......
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Dually's sit high so when loaded they sit level, I would consider that normal chassis geometry.

Level is level,

Squat is squat........how far does the nose have to go gentlemen? Is this far enough????
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I would like the clearence to be 6" from top of bedrail to bottom portion of the 5'ers overhang.
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