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Old 09-06-2014, 09:40 PM   #1
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Used 5er shopping & brake question

We just sold our Class A and are shopping for a used 5er. Probably from and individual. So some experience in RVs but not the 5er at all.
1. When shopping, any advise of "what" to look for is appreciated.
2. Brakes: How can I check to see if they are OK, or need work?
3. About how much cost to replace brake pads? Say per axle?

We like the Newmar used 5er due to floorplans and apparent quality, but they are used and old.
If I drove to pick it up, I could arrange for new tires before traveling home (may be some distance) but what about BRAKES?

Any other "warnings" you guys have?

Thanks. I try to answer question on the Class A forum but am a new guy to 5er's.

John and Caren, Arkansas. 2006 Newmar Cypress 5th wheel. "Fractured Fairy tails"
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Old 09-07-2014, 06:27 AM   #2
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How big of one and what you pulling it with? Trailer Brakes arent too important unless it's really heavy. I pulled a 30 ft 9000 pound one through the mountains with a 2013 f350 and never hit the brakes once, the transmission brake did all the work with the cruise set at 70, lol!

If it's a heavy trailer and/or you use the brakes often and heavy instead of slowing down early and letting gravity do most of the work you'll destroy the tow vehicles brakes fast and warp the rotors without trailer brakes.

Pretty much need to remove the tire and drum to see what the look like, pretty quick and easy with proper tools, and you can check wheel bearings at the same time if looking at used ones. Unsure of cost, very cheap if you do yourself. Haven't had to replace mine yet.

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Old 09-07-2014, 07:30 AM   #3
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All the newmars are heavy. I have a Mobile Suites. Very similar. The best indicator of a quality fifth wheel is to look at the front. If the area from the roof down the front and back to the rear of the over hang and then down to the bottom of the unit is one solid continuous pice of fiber glass with no seams that wraps up to the sides that is a quality fifth wheel. It is built to last. I suspect the Newmar you're looking at is made that way.

As to brakes the best way to repair them is to replace the whole brake plate. Look on line at most any RV parts place and you will see what I mean. I'm not sure on price but I think they are reasonable if you do it yourself. I'm thinking less than 100 bucks a wheel. If you take it to an RV shop then it's like the class A, you had, outrageous. If you can find an independent shop that works on "trailers" not RVs you can possibly get it done reasonably. But, it is a very easy chore, only four bolts and some wires involved on each wheel. The hard part is jacking up the trailer.

I think though you might be over thinking the brakes issue. Most people who tow these heavy fivers like Newmars keep the brakes working good. So, someone owned that unit and pulled it to where it is, chances are they took care of the brakes.

Tires should be the very best you can buy. I'm not sure what's on it but I would suggest 17.5 inch trailer wheels with 14 ply trailer tires. I came to that conclusion after a summer with two blow outs on 5 year old goodyear G114s. It was ugly, the first one took out all my systems up under the slide. Took a weekend and about 25 trips to Home Depot and the place that made the gas hoses before I got it back on the road.

Hope this helps and welcome to the fifth wheel world. I'm sure that if you are looking at a Newmar you have your truck properly set up for that weight. If you're not sure try looking on one of the forums for your brand of truck. For Ford I can suggest Ford Truck Enthusaist. Just google FTE. Dodge and bowtie have similar sites. I suggest you don't discuss towing weight and truck rigging on RV forums. Those threads always seem to become 20 pages of hard wired opinions. Go to the truck forums, you get much better info on that subject.

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Old 09-07-2014, 04:58 PM   #4
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Thanks for answers

Those were great answers that helped. Thanks.

Agree on tires.
Will set up truck correctly.
Since I may have to travel some distance to purchase a good one, and then hook up and drive home, I just wasn't sure about trailer brakes - how to test or check or just try to be safe about it.

Tks for cost comments. Just checking that its not a million bucks to do. I can do autos so should be able to do trailer.
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