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Old 07-30-2016, 01:04 PM   #1
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Hello, the writer is wanting to purchase a used 2010-14 5'er to start out. But need to know some idea of the quality, is it a "Chevy or a Cadillac" construction. Can someone list some brands with a rating(1-10, 1 being the best) to provide a starting point?
Have been looking at some locally and at a loss on the quality. The sales people refuse to answer me when I ask them this question. Might get; "it is good" or "it has quality". Some are quite used/abused making it hard to determine the original quality.

Thank you for the help.
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Glad to have you with us here in the forum.

I can't help you with that question, however in the blue bar above under RV forums there is a forum just for 5ers. You may get more opinions there.

Happy Trails!!!
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My best advice would be to do your research and look on all the Threads on IRV2 concerning the brands you are considering. Read what people like/dislike, what quality issues they have had, how they were treated by the dealer, and the manufacturer when problems arose, and how they were resolved. Keep in mind people normally only post about the bad things, and rarely do they post if everything is going great, but at least it gives you a barometer to consider.

Then go out and look at as many as you can and really consider how well the floorplan meets your needs. There are so many different brands and models, so keep notes of pluses and minuses. Soon you will see what people are talking about when it comes to floorplan, ease of use, and quality. Then you will be able to decide for yourself what is most important, some it's the quality build, others the ease of use, floorplan, or price. If you do it this way you will know when you find the right combination of brand, quality, floorplan and price that meets your needs, it will jump right out at you. Do not expect the Salesman to know anything other than basic info about any RV, they(not all) really don't know that much and will sell you anything just to get a sale. It is way more complicated and time consuming than buying a car, so do your research first and you will be happy you did. And remember looking for one is half the fun of buying one. Good Luck.
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Old 07-30-2016, 01:31 PM   #4
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I'd say this company is the best.

I suggest asking your salespeople what kind of RV do they own and where have they gone with it.

You'll soon discover most of them could be selling cars, couches or caskets. They are salespeople, not RVers and just don't have the experience using different brand RV's to tell you what is number one.

Number one is what's on the lot.
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Hi! Welcome to IRV2! We're sure glad you joined the gang!

You've got a LOT of tire-kicking to do!

Good luck, happy trails, and God bless!
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Quality in used RV's is a 2 part thing...makers build quality and previous owner TLC.

For the builder...Anything older that 2014 will most surely be out of any warranty, so they are out if the picture. I submit, except for some very inexpensive or for some very premium brands, the build quality is about the same.
This is an example of a premium 5er:
http://www.drvsuites.com/

For the previous owner's action...this is what REALLY impacts the condition of an used RV. Check everything before purchase to ensure all systems are operational, the body is free of leaks or water intrusion, and the frame and axles are in good repair.

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What price range and what is your tow vehicle's capacity? Higher quality units will be big, expensive and heavy, even the Artic Fox units, while smaller are still heavy for their size. And you may have to go older than 2010 to get one at a reasonable price.

Otherwise, quality varies more from unit to unit than it does between manufacturer or brand name. You could go to each manufacturer's web site and see how they rank their brands, some give MSRP ranges for each brand. You can also go to NADAguides and find the value for any brand, model, year unit you look at. This will give you sort of a ranking.

Finally as already stated, how well the unit was maintained by previous owner can be a bigger indication of future issues. So careful visual inspection is key, so get an experienced RVer to go with you or spend a lot of time inspecting many units. There really aren't any short cuts when it comes to used RVs
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Most of not all manufacturer build entry level, mid level and their top end units.

Just as examples- Jayco builds a Jay-Flight line, Eagle Line and Pinnacle Line. The Pinnacle is the top Jayco.

DRV builds Tradition, Mobile Suite and Elite Suits - the Elite Suits are their top.

But Dynamax just builds the Trilogy. They build motorized RV's and started building the Trilogy about 6 years ago.

Top of the line units are heavy with 7,000lb or even 8,000lb. axles, more insulation, better tires, dual pane windows, maybe 2.5" - 3.5" walls vs 2" walls. Typically takes a dually truck to tow the better 5th wheels.

If you look at a DRV Elite it comes with a fiberglass roof. So does the Trilogy. Fiberglass is considered the best roof but a rubber roof is much more common. 98% of 5th wheels have a rubber roof.

Look at the Augusta Luxe that is another top 5th wheel.

There are also custom builders like New Horizons, Space Craft and Continental Coach. These 5th wheels need a MDT (Medium Duty Truck) to tow them like F-650 as an example.

But much more common are Keystone Montana, Forest River Redwood, Dutchman Infinity, Coachman Brookstone, Crossroads Rushmore, Solitude Grand Design, Heartland Landmark, KZ Stoneridge, Jayco Pinnacle, Columbus Palamino.

Now manufatures are being bought up or going out of business. It is a real shell game as new names come and old names go.

Evergreen which built the very nice Life Style, and Bayhill models just when out of business.

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Most of not all manufacturer build entry level, mid level and their top end units.

Just as examples- Jayco builds a Jay-Flight line, Eagle Line and Pinnacle Line. The Pinnacle is the top Jayco.

DRV builds Tradition, Mobile Suite and Elite Suits - the Elite Suits are their top.

But Dynamax just builds the Trilogy. They build motorized RV's and started building the Trilogy about 6 years ago.

Top of the line units are heavy with 7,000lb or even 8,000lb. axles, more insulation, better tires, dual pane windows, maybe 2.5" - 3.5" walls vs 2" walls. Typically takes a dually truck to tow the better 5th wheels.

If you look at a DRV Elite it comes with a fiberglass roof. So does the Trilogy. Fiberglass is considered the best roof but a rubber roof is much more common. 98% of 5th wheels have a rubber roof.

Look at the Augusta Luxe that is another top 5th wheel.

There are also custom builders like New Horizons, Space Craft and Continental Coach. These 5th wheels need a MDT (Medium Duty Truck) to tow them like F-650 as an example.

But much more common are Keystone Montana, Forest River Redwood, Dutchman Infinity, Coachman Brookstone, Crossroads Rushmore, Solitude Grand Design, Heartland Landmark, KZ Stoneridge, Jayco Pinnacle, Columbus Palamino.

Now manufatures are being bought up or going out of business. It is a real shell game as new names come and old names go.

Evergreen which built the very nice Life Style, and Bayhill models just when out of business.

Good luck
Wow, that should be a sticky! I'm only half kidding. Nicely summarized!
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Hello, the writer is wanting to purchase a used 2010-14 5'er to start out. But need to know some idea of the quality, is it a "Chevy or a Cadillac" construction. Can someone list some brands with a rating(1-10, 1 being the best) to provide a starting point?
Have been looking at some locally and at a loss on the quality. The sales people refuse to answer me when I ask them this question. Might get; "it is good" or "it has quality". Some are quite used/abused making it hard to determine the original quality.

Thank you for the help.
Requested info; Tow vehicle: 2016 RAM SRW, 4x4, crew cab, long bed, big cummins, AT, tow/5th wheel pkg.
Would like to keep the 5'er under $25k.
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Requested info; Tow vehicle: 2016 RAM SRW, 4x4, crew cab, long bed, big cummins, AT, tow/5th wheel pkg.
Would like to keep the 5'er under $25k.
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Also, the local dealers are very reluctant to say the Mdl. Year for some reason. May have to ask three or four times and quite often it is "I don't know" or "possibly an ___".
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Requested info; Tow vehicle: 2016 RAM SRW, 4x4, crew cab, long bed, big cummins, AT, tow/5th wheel pkg.
Would like to keep the 5'er under $25k.
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Take your loaded truck to a scale, get total weight and each axle. Biggest issue with 3/4 diesel 4x4 trucks is limited load capacity to handle a fivers loaded pin weight. And you won't know the loaded weight til you own it. But this issue is just as important as quality, price, brand and floor plan of the fiver
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Forgot to say it is a 1ton, and appreciate the suggestion.
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You have asked the impossible question. Even the very best brands will have issues on occasion. The question is not always how good is it built, but how well does the manufacturer stand behind their product.

For background, my wife and I have owned over 20 RVs in our married career. Fleetwood, Thor and many smaller units no longer made.

There are many units you would be happy with, but I feel the most bang for the buck lies with either Northwood or their sister company Outdoors RV.

Do a NADA research project and compare MSRP to current NADA value of several five year old units. You will find Arctic Fox will depreciate the least over time.
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