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Old 09-29-2013, 04:23 PM   #1
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What is the definition of "self-contained" used in the NADA price guides?

I get the impression that people use the term "self-contained" in different ways (and sometimes use the term to apply to particular subsystems as well as an entire RV???)

In any case, what is "self-contained" when applied to a fifth-wheel RV intended to mean?

(And should I be forewarned of particular misuses of the term?)

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Self contained should sort the majority of RVs from ones that do not have a 12V system, or water holding systems.

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I've always heard it means an RV with waste tanks, not one where the sink water just runs out on the ground.
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I've always heard it means an RV with waste tanks, not one where the sink water just runs out on the ground.
If the water just runs out onto the ground it's now illegal in lots of states. OR did this in about '98 and we had to add a 5 gal leak proof vented container on the ground. Other states have followed suit and also require it. In WA they can stop you if your fresh water tank is leaking while you drive.
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Self-contained means, on board fresh water, waste holding tanks and 12 volt lights as a minimum.

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Wow! I just took for granted that an RV *must* be capable of storing everything---because anything that simply dumps on the ground would be an environmental hazard illegal in the civilized world. Yikes.

(Expecting an RV to be "self-contained" in that sense would seem to be just as necessary as expecting a vehicle to come with wheels on it. Thanks for the information, everyone!)
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Usually it's park models and some pop up's that have no holding tanks. They do have plumbing to run to proper sewer systems though.

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