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Old 12-01-2015, 12:00 PM   #15
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None of the conversation goes to the OPs question.. which really isn't answerable except for the one s/he likes.

From trolling the boards for a couple years I think I will *never* buy a new unit.. too many problems and too steep depreciation curve...but some require that new rig smell I want a rig with the bugs worked out...

Good luck regardless..
And sometimes you can't find the floorplan you want in used so you are forced to buy new.
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Old 12-01-2015, 12:51 PM   #16
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Old 12-01-2015, 02:46 PM   #17
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And sometimes you can't find the floorplan you want in used so you are forced to buy new.
We are 'close enough" folks and our needs change over time..we like what we have now but when we start long timing, we may want something different...but if we really wanted a specific floor plan, we would probably go custom....but you are correct, floor plan is king..
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Old 12-01-2015, 03:46 PM   #18
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Thanks all....great insight. I would rather purchase a used unit, and have looked for several months. Problem is the rear entertainment area with facing sofa sleepers is apparently a new design and there is nothing used out there. As a CPA I know all about depreciation
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"Problem is the rear entertainment area with facing sofa sleepers is apparently a new design and there is nothing used out there." Often there will be a couple of recliners on one side and a sleeper sofa on the other. If you find a used coach with that arrangement you probably could take out the recliners, sell them, and buy a new (or used) sleeper sofa to replace them.

"But on that same note, I've been noticing more and more RVs with blank exterior walls where windows once would have been. The trend towards huge TVs, desks, etc, limits the amount of wall space available for windows." Windows cost money. Putting in a slightly larger desk doesn't cost nearly as much as the window that would have been there, so in goes the desk.

I've looked at quite a few 5'ers on rvtrader in the past few months, and we've decided that we don't like the rear entertainment style because it usually takes away the rear window and all normal salon seating is 90* to the television. A rear sleeper sofa, with picture window above it, and recliners opposite the television is a better arrangement for us.

As for the original question about the "best" manufacturer, "that depends." If you have to have one that is still in business, and has been for some time, probably the top choices are DRV, New Horizons, and Spacecraft (in alphabetical order). If you are buying used and don't mind a manufacturer that went under during the recent depression you can add Excel and Teton to that list. DRV and New Horizons have stock plans that can be customized. New Horizons and Spacecraft will also build a fully customized coach for you. I believe that both Excel and Teton were primarily stock coaches with some customizing available, but I might be wrong.
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Separate the DRV from New Horizon, Space Craft, and add Continental Coach (Forks RV) to the premium list that only custom builds.
DRV is the top Production built rv out there now. The other 3 listed here are all Custom per order.
And Carriage to your defunct builders. Anything 2012 and older.
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Separate the DRV from New Horizon, Space Craft, and add Continental Coach (Forks RV) to the premium list that only custom builds.
DRV is the top Production built rv out there now. The other 3 listed here are all Custom per order.
And Carriage to your defunct builders. Anything 2012 and older.
I agree with this assessment. I bought a used 2014 DRV Suites 5th wheel after researching RVs for a year and a half. They have the strongest frames outside of the aforementioned three custom trailers. That's not to say that mine doesn't have issues, though. The last time we had our rig out before we winterized it, it was cold enough to run the furnace. We had warm air coming out of every vent except the one in the bedroom, where we had no air at all. After taking the sliding basement doors out, I discovered the flimsy air duct going to the plenum for the bedroom was sliced wide open in three different places because of poor workmanship in the routing of the duct. I can fix it pretty easily, but I shouldn't have to. If that's the worst thing that I have to repair, though, I can live with it.
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Old 12-02-2015, 07:45 AM   #22
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I know of 2 AFs that have been rolled and are still on the road...that is tough.

Depreciation sucks but I think the better quality rig will hold value more so than the lower price point rig. We were at a RV show and one vendor told us that the unit we were looking at was their highest selling rig... which meant to me that if I do ever sell, I will have the most competition selling..

Look what the Long / full timers are using vs the weekend road warriors. Set a budget..prices sometimes go into the silly range. Lurk on the brand specific boards...there are brands out there that I have no idea why they are still in business due to the problems .. and *all* have problems.. I don't believe there is a high value on electronics..that suff usually can be replace cheaply...focus on construction.

Buy the best you can afford and don't scrimp on your tow vehicle.. a little more than you need is a build in safety margin and will make the trips that much more enjoyable ..

And have fun with the search... good luck.

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Jayco pinnacle is very nice
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DRV still has a good chassis but have really gone down on everything else. They are cranking out too many units to keep quality up. They are still the best mass produced unit on market. I no longer consider them a good deal.
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We ended up purchasing a 2016 Grand Design Solitude 384GK. Hopefully this will meet our needs for several years. Now I need to find a tow vehicle!
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Having now been working on these things for near 20 years professionally, I have come away with the impression "best" is a relative term. I have worked on fewer high-end fivers as there are fewer of them, but quality control remains a struggle for the RV industry, in my opinion.

I have also seen folks full-timing in virtually everything with wheels, so there are sure a ton of ways to do it.

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