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Old 08-16-2016, 10:06 AM   #1
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Who makes quality lite 5th wheels

Looking at who makes quality lite 5th wheels such as the Montana High Country.

Don't want ones that have a GVWR over 15,000 pounds unless it's just barely over and the MFG will rerate them down to 15,000. Example if the real GVWR is 15,250 will they rerate it to 15,000. Why? I don't want to deal with getting a Calif Class A non-commercial license if possible.

Only looking at ones with Residential Refrigerators.

So the question is who and what's the quality like?
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Please excuse my pun but you may be looking for an "Oxymoron".
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Light,strong ,cheap

pick two

all three never ever gona happen in any vehicle land,sea or sky.
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Light,strong ,cheap

pick two

all three never ever gona happen in any vehicle land,sea or sky.
I'll go with Lite and strong.
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I have yet to see one that meets your requirements.

I am interested in seeing what you get.

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Find one built with Titanium. Light and strong. But not cheap. Would be so costly that it is not built. The technology is available but cost not in line. I weld Titanium and we even recycle welding stubs.
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Try an Artic Fox 5er, but they will not lower the GVWR on any trailer that is already compliant with the NHTSA of the feds. Artic Fox is manufactured by Northwood Manufacturing CO. They do have some 5er's that are under 15,000 GVWR.
Here is their web site.Northwood | Arctic Fox Fifth Wheels


What is your truck GVWR and do you scale over 26,001 LBS total when pulling any trailer?
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Looked at some Arctic Fox units while on our way to Alaska back in May. Strong 'yes'. Cheap 'no'. Light 'no'. The salesman said we don't give a hoot about weight when they build them. You see a lot of them up here in Alaska and Yukon. The 30' tt we liked had a sale price of $45k. A cheap 30' tt can be had for $15 - 20k (+ or - ).
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Try an Artic Fox 5er, but they will not lower the GVWR on any trailer that is already compliant with the NHTSA of the feds. Artic Fox is manufactured by Northwood Manufacturing CO. They do have some 5er's that are under 15,000 GVWR.
Here is their web site.Northwood | Arctic Fox Fifth Wheels


What is your truck GVWR and do you scale over 26,001 LBS total when pulling any trailer?
Any of the floor plans my DS would like were to heavy.

The one plan she really likes is the Montana High Country 352RL/353RL. They are the same floor plan but the 353RL has the RR so it's now on the top of the list. Need to figure in Solar and/or generator plus bigger batteries.

The four states we might live in, CA, OR, ID or WA we can pull it without any worries about the 26,001 weight as in all four RVs are exempt. In CA only we'll have to take a written test for an RV endorsement, 5er over 10,000 but under 15,001, but no driving or medical test required. I'm not worried about them just don't want to be bothered with it.

Next the truck. Although duals would not be required for that trailer I'm sure the ride would be better with them. Just don't know if it's worth the extra hassles as a daily driver.
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For what it's worth, I like the Keystone Springdale models I would look at them. I had a 26' TT and now I am looking at a 26' 5er hopefully in the next few months.


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Check out the fastest growing company in fifth wheels: Grand Design.

I have their Reflection 323BHS bunk house model that's 36' with 4 slides, and it's been great. Dry weight is 11k with 2k kingpin weight.

Any of their Reflections can be towed by a properly equipped 3/4 ton diesel truck.
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A word of caution....do not use dry weights as these are pretty useless. They are the basic trailer with no options. Any item listed as optional has to be added, like A/C, TV, awnings,batteries, etc. Once you move into a trailer it can easily be 2000# heavier than the dry weight and the loaded pin weight will probaly be more like 20% of the trailer GVWR.

Our loaded weight jumped a bit over 3200# and the pin weight is 22# of the trailer weight.

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So, between this conversation and another similar one I'm on. It seems to me that everyone has a different opinion on what, who or when you should buy. The best thing you can do is your home work. Get the best quality you can afford. Make the best deal on the sale that you can and hopefully all will work out for you.

Make sure you check everything from bumper to bumper when you buy it. Have the dealer or person have it plugged in with the fridge running. Make sure the A/C, Furnace and all appliances work before you take delivery and use it as much as you can during the warranty period if there is one.

Don't be afraid to ask questions make notes as you think of them and make as many trips to look at trailers as you need to. Remember, you are the one with the money and there are a lot of people who want it. If your not comfortable with a dealership or a salesman there is another one down the road.

Good luck on your decision and please let us know how your experience is and what you get.


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