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03-01-2017, 05:33 PM
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Tiffin Owners Club Vintage RV Owners Club
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Slow and steady up the hill and slow and steady on the down grade. I'm here to enjoy the view on both sides.
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03-01-2017, 05:35 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Feb 2016
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I personally wouldn't tow a 12k fiver with any gas rig. Diesels just do it better (twice the torque, better mpg, better resale, and the exhaust brake makes a huge difference on the downhills) and there really is no debate on the above.
Downsides of course are upfront cost and maintenance costs are higher. I suppose you could add an external fuel tank to a gas truck, otherwise you will be filing up every 200 miles as the fuel capacity is normally lower.
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03-01-2017, 05:40 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Dec 2010
Posts: 1,812
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Preventin rust out of tow vehicle
When you buy a brand new tow vehicle have a private place rust proof it every year. We use crown Rustproofing as it is close to our home. Then every year we put our F250 in the body shop for and dings or signs of rust. The truck is a 1997 F250 4x4 8ft. bed. The truck is 20yrs old and we get asked if we want to sell it. We live in the snowy North. Take care of your vehicle and it will take care of you. I priced a new truck with the same features as we have now and it is around $55,000. Going to drive our truck until I get the last few dollars from the junk yard.
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03-01-2017, 05:58 PM
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Member
Tiffin Owners Club Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: Mar 2012
Posts: 34
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I guess diesel and big brakes and engine or Trans brake and air ride may be the way to go. But if I were to go that route I would bypass the pickup and opt for a semi. And we decided to purchase a DRV or New HORIZON a small semi would be awesome.
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03-02-2017, 02:29 PM
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Member
RV Trip Wizard Grand Design Owners Club
Join Date: Sep 2014
Posts: 46
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I am pulling a 2015 Cougar X-Lite 29RLI @ 34.5' with a 2015 F-250 Gas truck in Ontario Canada. So far we have not had any issues pulling the trailer at all.
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03-02-2017, 04:42 PM
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Senior Member
Carolina Campers
Join Date: Dec 2015
Location: Wherever we throw the dart
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We never had trouble pulling a 22 ft travel trailer with our 2013 F150 Ecoboost. But hubby hated heading downhill with it. It gave him white knuckle syndrome. He adores the engine braking in a diesel.
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03-02-2017, 05:13 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Mar 2017
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Pulling a Cougar 320 SRX toy hauler 5er just a tad over 35 foot with a 03 Silverado 2500HD 8.1L Allison trans w/3.73's ... she's a thirty girl but this truck pulls it no issues up or down ... tow/haul on of course
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03-02-2017, 05:44 PM
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Community Administrator
Pond Piggies Club LA Gulf Coast Campers Outdoors RV Owners Club Entegra Owners Club Skyline Owners Group
Join Date: Mar 2002
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Our previouse set up was 33ft Cougar (not a lite) with a 2500HD Chevy 4x4. Loaded it was around 9,600lbs. It was a great combo. I kind of miss it. I LOVED driving that truck & there was more living space & counter space in that 5-r than we have in our coach.
Lori-
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12-30-2019, 06:10 PM
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Registered User
Join Date: Apr 2012
Location: Ridgeway ,Ontario
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Thks 4 your comments , as we are transitioning from 40 ft coach & road to 30ft fiver. The gas / diesel thing. 250 / 350 thing.
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12-30-2019, 06:13 PM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Dec 2012
Location: Oregon
Posts: 6,657
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30' 5er in Canada. 350/3500 diesel of choice. No brainer.
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12-31-2019, 06:10 AM
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Member
Join Date: Jul 2012
Location: Cary, NC
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We tow our 303 with Ram 2500, 6.4l hemi. There are times I have considered a diesel, but can't justify the cost or increased fuel prices.
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12-31-2019, 07:02 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Aug 2013
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I see many stating length of their gas towed trailers making the feat seem bigger, most are 12,000# or less. Which just goes to the noted break point for gas to diesel is 10,000# to 12,000#.
Once you approach that break point it is time to think about making the step up to a diesel. Not all payback is in dollars, the comfort of the tow has a lot to do with it.
We travel a lot of secondary roads that don't always have passing lanes on hills, so maintaining speed is a courtesy to the drivers behind us.
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12-31-2019, 10:43 AM
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Senior Member
Join Date: Mar 2019
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Heavier 5er on a gas powered truck
I realize this is an old thread but since it's been revived quite a bit recently I'll add my 2 cents.
I pull a 13 000lb 5th wheel with my 6.0 gas powered truck. I won't win any races going up 7%+ grades but it gets the job done. Have done several cross-country trips, lots of mountain ranges and I keep up with all the big rigs unless they're empty. Steepest hill that was officially measured was 22% and it was a standing start deal. I didn't chance it and went up in 4 lo, it was loose gravel and 2 curves so why chance it?
When you get to 6 speed transmissions and 300+ HP you can pull quite a bit. My truck has the 3.73 gears and would benefit from 4.10 gearing but I'm not spending time and $$ to change it even though I can do it myself.
I feel 13 000 lbs is the upper limit of what I'm confortable weight-wise on my rig. I'm researching the next truck for the "retirement RV". I'm gonna wait and see how the new gassers hold up and maybe GM will slap a 10 speed on their 6.6 gasser.
More importantly than raw power chassis, suspension and braking are important to me. I've seen plenty of 3/4 ton diesel rigs overmatched in all those departments, not a fun ride. I'd rather be slow and safe than fast and unstable.
FYI diesel trucks did not fit my current needs. My gas truck sits here a LOT of the time. It is reliable and cheap to run, also plenty of power for my current needs.
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12-31-2019, 08:04 PM
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#28
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Senior Member
Fleetwood Owners Club Freightliner Owners Club
Join Date: Nov 2010
Location: Texas
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2017 Ram 1500 5.7L 392 hp 3.92 gears. 8k lbs loaded Grand Design 150 series.
High 12s mpg towing, mid 10s headwinds and/or hills.
Sister in law's combo, loves both. Very few problems out of both.
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