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Old 11-29-2019, 07:33 AM   #1
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Why don't more fifth wheels have generators?

Looking for our first fifth wheel. We are going to travel with a dog and want to be able to leave him in the fifth wheel while stopped in between campsites while eating, fishing, etc. but want him to be safe and comfortable. I see very few fifth wheels with generators. Why is this?
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Old 11-29-2019, 07:41 AM   #2
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Strictly my opinion but I think it's because they are mostly LP and that isn't conducive to running for an extended period.
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Old 11-29-2019, 07:42 AM   #3
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Some come "Generator ready" which is a very generic term. It doesn't make sense to offer something that is not demanded by a majority of potential customers that adds many $$$ to the purchase price.
Motor homes already have the fuel tanks, fills, etc, so it's just a matter of plumbing a line, finding a space, and ensuring safe exhaust.
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Old 11-29-2019, 08:10 AM   #4
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It increases the pin weight and reduces the Cargo Capacity significantly. Toy Haulers are more likely to be designed to carry one.
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Old 11-29-2019, 08:15 AM   #5
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One many dont see the cost being worth it. 2nd if they are propane thats a good thing. As most wont run there generator ońce a month to keep the carb clean. Propane isnt expensive and gets a whole lot more efficient if you put the bottle blankets on. The bottles get so much more efficient
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Old 11-29-2019, 08:23 AM   #6
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I never understood that either. I am considering switching from a DP to a one ton truck and fifth wheel. I don't want to have to drag a portable generator around with me. An on board generator is a must in my opinion. As stated, I came to the conclusion that I would have to buy a toy hauler to get a generator. Having to lift a generator on and off the truck would be a real pain. As you said, if you want the dogs to have air conditioning while you are away, you have no choice but to leave the generator behind. This opens you up to the possibility of theft as well. Also you have to carry jerry cans of fuel. After two class As with the onboard fuel tank and generator, I cant see me going back to slugging around a genny. I went through that with the two travel trailers I had years ago.
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We see many with generators or generator prep. Most toy haulers have generators.

With a typical 5er, all you have is propane and they do suck down a lot of propane. Also, a propane generator is generally derated capacity since propane has a lower energy content per unit volume, thus the engine make less power and generates less kWatt. You will typically find the generator in higher end RVs. Look at DRV Mobile Suites.

Another problem is a generator is heavy and will add a lot to the pin weight of the trailer.

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Adding a generator is pretty easy if that is what the rv owner wants. I converted my Honda to propane and don't have too worry about bad/stale gas.
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Have had frienda that had generators in their fifth whwwls. The only time they used it was when they depleted the batteries after a weekend of dry camping. Of course they had to jump start the generator to charge the battery enough to bring the slides in. Long tedious process.
Fifth whwwl generatora, being propane often times have a third propane tank. 7 gallons of propane will only last a few houra then you need to go find a place to refil it. 500 pounds of added weight on the pin? Another big downer. To be honest I see very little use for an on boars generator even in a motor home. Look at most any used MH. See the ODO milage, year and compare that to generator run hours.
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It's been my experience that all of today's 5th wheels are prepped for a generator. Generators are offered as an option. My guess is most 5th wheels are not boondocked and a generator isn't needed. If yours doesn't have one, you can have a generator added.

We lucked out on our first 5th wheel, an Everest, which had a genny and we used it quite a bit but it was propane and sucked it down. Our current toyhauler has a genny and it runs on gas from a 30 gallon tank.
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I get that a lot of people worry about the pin weight when a gen is added up front and that they take up a huge about of cargo space. What I don't get is why more 5th wheel manufactures don't start mounting generators UNDER the rig like New Horizon does. That takes up NO cargo space and the weight is centered and adds very little if any pin weight. One of the many reasons we went with New Horizon.
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Our jayco pinnacle came generator prepped, including the remote switches. We added the 5500 Onan, which was mounted in the first compartment and really didnt take much room. It was gas, and easy to fill either when fueling the tv or with a can. We don't boondock much, but still used it quite a bit while traveling. Worked great and never a problem.
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Have had frienda that had generators in their fifth whwwls. The only time they used it was when they depleted the batteries after a weekend of dry camping. Of course they had to jump start the generator to charge the battery enough to bring the slides in. Long tedious process.
Fifth whwwl generatora, being propane often times have a third propane tank. 7 gallons of propane will only last a few houra then you need to go find a place to refil it. 500 pounds of added weight on the pin? Another big downer. To be honest I see very little use for an on boars generator even in a motor home. Look at most any used MH. See the ODO milage, year and compare that to generator run hours.
If you never boondock, you wouldn't need a generator too often. It is an absolute must for boondocking. If you have ever driven a class A in 90 degree weather, you would soon understand the need for a generator. The dash air does little to cool the entire coach.
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most Class A the gennie starts when the diesel starts. sometimes before even disconnectimg shore power.i run my generator even though mounted in truck bed. my 5ver i keep the air conditioners on in transit. same as a MH does. Easy to do and rig is cool at arrival.
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