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Old 10-10-2013, 11:13 AM   #1
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Question Would this Truck be good on pulling a 5th wheel Camper?

New 2012 Ford F-250 4WD XL Pickup



Vin, 1FTBF2BT2CED12483, Exterior Color:Oxford White, Mileage:5, Engine Size:Turbocharged Diesel V8 6.7L/406Trans:6-Speed Automatic w/manual


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Old 10-10-2013, 11:33 AM   #2
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Probably OK for a smaller, lighter 5th wheel. The problem with the 3/4 ton truck is it is limited in GVWR and rear axle GAWR, and 5th wheels will transfer ~20% or more of their loaded weight to the truck as kingpin weight, so the truck must be rated to CARRY this kingpin weight in addition to TOWING the weight of the loaded 5th wheel. Insufficent GVWR/GAWR ratings to carry the weight is where the 3/4 ton truck comes up short.

As the 5th wheel size and weight moves up, you should consider the 1-ton SRW (single rear wheel) truck, then the 1-ton dually with their higher GVWR and GAWR ratings.

If you're buying a new truck for the express purpose of towing a 5th wheel RV, why knowingly limit yourself right off the bat?

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Old 10-10-2013, 11:38 AM   #3
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Should be but here was my thought process when we were thinking of moving up from pull-behind to a 5er. Current short bed PU would not accept 5th wheel so I wanted the biggest thing I could get so looked at 3500 HD Chevy 4wd diesel. $65k. Used 5er of the size we wanted around $35k. I was tired of dragging camper anyway so we made the switch and moved up to a MoHo. Less $ and very happy with the change. The convenience factor alone is well worth it. Anyway to answer your question in my opinion get the biggest tow rig you can.
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Old 10-10-2013, 12:30 PM   #4
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New 2012 Ford F-250 4WD XL Pickup



Vin, 1FTBF2BT2CED12483, Exterior Color:Oxford White, Mileage:5, Engine Size:Turbocharged Diesel V8 6.7L/406Trans:6-Speed Automatic w/manual


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It depends on how big a 5er you want. We have a friend that towed a 27' 5er with his F250. It towed OK but he said he never felt comfortable with it. After about 2 years he sold it and bought a TT about the same length.
X2 on what hochmuth1957 said.
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Did not state cab size.
Numbers side on a 2011, do not believe they changed on a 2012.
Gross weight 5er 15700-16100 (cab size)
Max payload 2940-2210 (cab size)
.... so any of the following; wife, kids, dog, stuff in the truck will affect it.
The engine will pull it fine. I can not tell you anything on the handling in a 250.
With someone else in a regular cab, ball park, you probably want under 12k and under. That gives you (12k) roughly 500 lbs for people other than (150 lb?, Rusty can verify or correct) driver, hitch and stuff.
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I would be concerned why a dealer still has a NEW 2012 truck of any brand in Oct 2013. What is wrong with it? the options or price?
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I would be concerned why a dealer still has a NEW 2012 truck of any brand in Oct 2013. What is wrong with it? the options or price?
Part might be that there is nothing in it. XL is a 'work truck'.
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The XL is a pretty plain truck. Most people are wanting the Lariat or Ling Ranch with all of the do-dads and electronics.

The F250 will be limited due to the GVWR and GAWR. The engine is very stout and pull a lot, but the truck is limited as per above. It will also have a axle ratio that is less suitable for towing heavy.

Generally with a typical mid price 5er, the 3/4 ton truck will be able to tow up to about a 32' 5er. To know for sure you need to weigh the truck and run the nmbers out.

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We tow a 30' 10500 lb gvwr 5'er with our 3/4 ton and love it! Tows it with ease. Did not need the added expense of the 1 ton when we bought our truck. A 3/4 ton is perfectly fine if it fits the trailer you wish to tow. Otherwise what about a 1 1/2 or 2 ton or?? Depends on how big of trailer you want.
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6 years ago I bought a 2005 F250 XL SC LWB out of lease with 70k miles for $20k cash.
Added 2008 trailer manual towing mirrors for $100 and a complete GPS 2din radio/DVD unit for $420 and $20 electric locks. Oh yes with 2 rear cams. Also added a Hypertech programer and a scangaugeII to protect the powertrain.
The truck had 3 options. Captain seats. A/C and and 6.0l diesel engine. No automatic transmission that is now rare.
But it had been set up for fully loaded road service by adding 2 additional leaf springs each sides. Also the alarm system was still in the truck so I added the electric locks in the doors controlled by the alarm system.
So for less then $21k I have a fully equipped truck for towing my heavy 39' 5th wheel. After 6 years i will never give my truck away for less then $20k because its mine and setup right. And fully capable of accomplishing what I need it to.
But it's an XL with the comfort and better quality then any similar King Ranch out there.
A truck can be found and build properly to be both affordable and comfortable.
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You pick the trailer first and then you pick the tow vehicle that will handle the trailer.

The first thing you need to do is pick a fifth wheel so you know how heavy it is and what the pin weight is. Then you know what truck configuration you need to tow the fifth wheel.

You are legally responsible for having an adequate tow vehicle. Don't rely on personal opinions.
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The F250 will be limited due to the GVWR and GAWR. The engine is very stout and pull a lot, but the truck is limited as per above. It will also have a axle ratio that is less suitable for towing heavy.
With the diesel motor, axle ratios are the same between the F250 and F350, so tow rating will be identical with the same motor and axle ratio. Actually, F350 DRW may be slightly less due to it's higher dry weight.

It is true that rear GAWR will limit pin weight. However, both models use the same axle. It is tire capacity (not axle capacity) that limits rear GAWR and the F350 SRW is not that much higher than the F250. So, if an F250 won't get the job done, then the only significant improvement is an F350 DRW.
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Old 10-11-2013, 01:24 PM   #13
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What about this 2012 Truck also? Wonder why the dealer cann't sell either truck?

New 2012 Ford F-350 Dually Super Duty RWD XL Pickup, Crew Cab, Flat steel bed. Price is 37,000



  • Tow Hooks
  • Dual Rear Wheels
  • Power Steering
  • 4-Wheel Disc Brakes
  • Tires - Front All-Season
  • Tires - Rear All-Season
  • Steel Wheels
  • Intermittent Wipers
  • Variable Speed Intermittent Wipers
  • AM/FM Stereo
  • A/C
  • A/C
  • Vinyl Seats
  • Split Bench Seat
  • Driver Adjustable Lumbar
  • Pass-Through Rear Seat
  • Rear Bench Seat
  • Adjustable Steering Wheel
  • Power Outlet
  • Front Reading Lamps
  • Rear Reading Lamps
  • Traction Control
  • ABS

VIN #:1FD8W3GT1CEB59051, Exterior Color:Oxford White, Mileage:5, Engine Size:Turbocharged Diesel V8 6.7L/Trans:6-Speed Automatic w/manual

Thanks for the help.

Alxe for this truck is a 4.10 ratio

http://www.tworiversford.com/index.a...y1li66dhnwx7ms
 

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It is true that rear GAWR will limit pin weight.
It is more common for a 3/4 ton truck to exceed GVWR before it reaches rear GAWR.

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