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Old 07-21-2011, 09:33 AM   #15
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Point taken. But from my reading it was G-614's that caused the problems. The G-114's are supposed to be better but I am all ears. If you know of more reliable sources or from personal experience please tell me. I am not 100% sold on the Goodyear and have not purchased yet.

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Oops! You are correct. I have not seen reports of chronic failures of the G114.

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Point taken. But from my reading it was G-614's that caused the problems. The G-114's are supposed to be better but I am all ears. If you know of more reliable sources or from personal experience please tell me. I am not 100% sold on the Goodyear and have not purchased yet.

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I changed to G114ís over three years ago. Here is a post from two years ago.

http://www.irv2.com/forums/f50/trailer-tires-51598.html

So far I have not had any problems with the tires. At this point I would recommend the G114ís for those that have heavy trailers.

My 33 ft Teton weighs 17,500 lbs with approximately 3,500 lbs per tire. We have a minimum of 20,000 miles on the G114ís at this point.
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Old 07-23-2011, 09:17 AM   #17
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TNance,

Yes I recall that thread now (or at least the pictures). Tires seem to be a continual issue in the RV industry. It just boggles my mind that manufacturers even consider placing tires that only match the minimum requirements o their units.

As important of a safety issue that tires are one would think the builders would increase the margin safety as much as possible in spite of the expense! What is $1000. or even $2000. difference if it keeps one from either being broken down and exposed to the hazards of being on the side of the road, or, God firbid, blowing out and crashing. How much is safety worth? Not much if you follow the manufacturers examples!

I would venture to say most people know little about tires ( I didn't). It would therefore seem prudent to put the heaviest load capacity tire and wheel with the greatest margin of safety on to take one area of risk out of the equation. ESPECIALLY for novice RV owners (like me). Just driving a RV is a challenging experience and tires are the single most important variable.
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As important of a safety issue that tires are one would think the builders would increase the margin safety as much as possible in spite of the expense! What is $1000. or even $2000. difference if it keeps one from either being broken down and exposed to the hazards of being on the side of the road, or, God firbid, blowing out and crashing. How much is safety worth? Not much if you follow the manufacturers examples!
Don't be too quick to blame the RV manufacturers. They will build whatever the buying public is willing to pay for. Unfortunately, most of the public is not willing to pay a few hundred dollars more for extra safety. Most buyers are looking for what pleases them aesthetically. If two trailers look about the same, but are thousands apart in price, guess which one they will buy? If a builder puts in too much quality, many buyers just think they are being ripped off because they don't see the quality difference. And most don't care. Make it look luxurious, make it cheap, and a lot of people will buy it.

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Another fair point. But should manufacturers only cater to the uniformed desires of the cheap-skate consumer without any responsibility to require safety margins? It is sad that buyers only want cheap when uninformed, but, are willing to put out the $$$ to make improvements after seeing ones life flash before their eyes while trying to stop a swaying trailers that is down on two bare rims? How many of you/us experienced RVers started out that way but through trial and error (and the grace of GOD) have lived to know better now. Example: This Forum!
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Sounds like you have things pretty well figured out. I have towed trailers for about 50yrs starting with a little box trailer behind a car. I have been on this site for about 10 so learned a lot in the school of hard knocks.

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Another fair point. But should manufacturers only cater to the uniformed desires of the cheap-skate consumer without any responsibility to require safety margins? The manufacturers go by the federal requirements (and no more).It is sad that buyers only want cheap when uninformed, but, are willing to put out the $$$ to make improvements after seeing ones life flash before their eyes while trying to stop a swaying trailers that is down on two bare rims? They don't know any better until they have trouble, then throw a bunch of money at the problem until someone (like us) clue them in to what they need to do. How many of you/us experienced RVers started out that way but through trial and error (and the grace of GOD) have lived to know better now. Example: This Forum!
You can tow a trailer (with out trouble) that is poorly equiped with big enough TV and get into a lot of trouble towing that same trailer with a TV that should be enough.
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