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Old 01-19-2008, 07:44 AM   #29
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I love the new 08 F450 but my signature will show why I would only order it with a V10.
No more Navistar V8s for me period.
Now if the rumor about a Ford Superduty with a Cat or a Cummins or a Ford built diesel is true........... well we'll see.
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Old 01-19-2008, 09:49 AM   #30
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">...No more Navistar V8s for me period... </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

I was under the impression that the source of most, if not all, issues with the 6.0 and 6.4 PS were due to the Ford designed and added (against the advice of Navistar) components. Is this incorrect?

With regard to NYS licensing requirements mentioned earlier, I recently found this:NYS License Classes

If I'm reading it right, if I wanted to pull a 5er greater than 10,000 lbs and if my GCWR is greater than 26,000, I would need a class A.

There is an RV endorsement (R) available for RVs greater than 26,000 lbs, but I don't think it would apply to a combination rig, only to single unit RVs (class A, B, or C). Unless of course I'm interpreting it wrong.

So if I were to use an HDT converted and registered in NYS as a motorhome (something I don't even know if it's possible) to pull a heavy 5er, I believe NY would still require me to have a Class A license due to the GCWR.

Seems like NYS has no problem with letting someone with a standard class D license tow a 25,000# trailer with a 1000# TV, providing you could find a TV rated to tow that much. Granted that's an extreme example, but I think you see what I getting at. So much for putting safety first.
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Old 01-19-2008, 10:32 AM   #31
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">I was under the impression that the source of most, if not all, issues with the 6.0 and 6.4 PS were due to the Ford designed and added (against the advice of Navistar) components. Is this incorrect? </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

It does not really matter what causes a bad marriage and Ford and Navistar have been having problems for years. Even with my 95 PSD which was a very good engine, they could not decide on something as basic as crankcase oil capacity.
First it was 12 litres and then 14 litres. Then Ford sends out PSDs without enough of the coolant additive that prevents block cavitation which the Navistar V8 diesels are prone to.
I tested both my new 95 and 2000 7.3s both too low. Ask a Ford service manager about this and you get a blank stare. Cummins talks to Dodge and GMC has lots of input into Dmax. Ford does have to get with the program or dump Navistar which is rumored to be happening.
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