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Old 08-11-2014, 03:44 PM   #1
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2010 F-150 towing a 3700 # Travel trailer?

My F-150 (standard 4.6) is only rated to pull 5400 lbs... I have a heavy duty frame hitch rated at 600 tongue wt. or 6000 lbs....or 1,100 lbs tongue wt. or 11,000 with a load distributing hitch......

The travel trailer I'm looking at weighs 3700 dry with a tongue wt. of 495 lbs... I've pulled a loaded 7x16 utility loaded with no problems... and 6x12 Uhaul trailers loaded... there is some strain on steep hills.... Can this truck handle this travel trailer? I plan to buy a load distributing hitch....Towing mainly in the southeast...
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Old 08-11-2014, 04:44 PM   #2
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Your hitch is fine.

What is the gvwr of the trailer?
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Old 08-11-2014, 05:00 PM   #3
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Your hitch is fine.

What is the gvwr of the trailer?
Travel Trailer
Shipping weight is 3711 lbs...
Carrying capacity 1695 lbs...
Hitch weight 495 lbs...

Tow Vehicle
2010 Ford F-150 4,963
GCWR 10,400
GVWR 6,450
Front GAWR 3,150
Rear GAWR 3,500
Max tow capacity 5,400
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You are good to go.

Whether the engine is up to it, only you know. But your numbers are fine.
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The clutch is your limit.
I love standards but use 4x4 with a low range. If you are good with the standard you might get away with more weight. But backing will possibly be worst on the clutch.
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You are good to go.

Whether the engine is up to it, only you know. But your numbers are fine.
Thanks... appreciate the help....
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Old 08-12-2014, 03:50 PM   #7
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My F-150 (standard 4.6) is only rated to pull 5400 lbs...
Poor choice of words. The 2010 F-150 was not available with a standard (manual) transmission. So by a "standard 4.6" you apparently meant the 4.6L 2V engine with automagic tranny, which was standard equipment in the 2010 F-150 regular cab shorty.

There is no manual transmission in the 2010 Ford RV and Trailer Towing Guide for an F-150 with 4.6L 2V V8 engine. But if you meant a 2010 F-150 regular cab shorty 4x2 with 3.55 axle ratio and automatic tranny, then the tow rating is 5,400 pounds.

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The travel trailer I'm looking at...
Shipping weight is 3711 lbs...
Carrying capacity 1695 lbs...
(dry) Hitch weight 495 lbs...
So trailer's GVWR is about 5,400 pounds with 13.3% hitch weight. So wet and loaded hitch weight is around 718 pounds. A weight-distributing hitch is required for any tongue weight more than 500 pounds, and 718 pounds of hitch weight would overload your receiver without a weight-distributing hitch. Therefore a weight distributing hitch is required.

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2010 Ford F-150
(curb weight) 4,963
GCWR 10,400
GVWR 6,450
Max tow capacity 5,400
GCWR minus max tow capacity = 5,000 pounds max weight of the wet and loaded pickup when ready to tow if you want a trailer weight capacity of 5,400 pounds. But your pickup is going to gross more than 5,000 pounds before you hook up the trailer, so your real world max tow capacity is less than 5,400 pounds.

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Can this truck handle this travel trailer?
Barely, and only if you are extremely conscious of weight and don't load the trailer to anywhere near the 5,400 pounds GVWR, and you don't load the pickup to over about 5,500 pounds, including the driver, passenger(s), a full tank of gas, the head from your weight-distributing hitch, tools, jacks, and other cargo. Otherwise, the truck may be able to "handle" that trailer, but not without overloading the truck. In other words, not safely. So be your own weight police.
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Poor choice of words. The 2010 F-150 was not available with a standard (manual) transmission. So by a "standard 4.6" you apparently meant the 4.6L 2V engine with automagic tranny, which was standard equipment in the 2010 F-150 regular cab shorty.

There is no manual transmission in the 2010 Ford RV and Trailer Towing Guide for an F-150 with 4.6L 2V V8 engine. But if you meant a 2010 F-150 regular cab shorty 4x2 with 3.55 axle ratio and automatic tranny, then the tow rating is 5,400 pounds.
STX 4x2 Super Cab Styleside 6.5 ft. box

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248-hp, 4.6-liter V-8 (regular gas)

I thought I specified (standard 4.6) not transmission...As you can see, this is how Ford listed the engine choices.... the "standard" engine is the 248 hp 4.6..... there is a higher tow capacity for the "optional" 4.6..... thanks for your input, it is appreciated and the grammar lesson too... damn public colleges....

I plan to travel light....until I get a new tow vehicle...
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Higher rpms on hills are expected. This is not a strain, gas engine needs to spin in order to make power. I would not be concerned for as long as the engine does not overheat or spins too high, away from its "sweet spot" where power and torque production is maximal.
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STX 4x2 Super Cab Styleside 6.5 ft. box

... damn public colleges....
Don't blame the college, blame your crooked eyeballs. You grabbed the wrong column in the Trailer Towing Selector for a 2010 F-150.

Your pickup has a tow rating of 5,300 pounds, not 5400 as you stated. GCWR is 10,600 pounds. So subtract 5,300 from 10,600 and you can tow a trailer that grosses 5,300 pounds only when your wet and loaded pickup also grosses less than 5,300 pounds before you tie onto the trailer.

As to public colleges, I have a BBA from Texas A&M and an MBA from the Graduate School of Business at the University of Texas at Austin. Both public colleges. And I've never had any problem in competing with those who have graduate degrees from Princeton, Stanford, Northwestern or other expensive private schools.
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Don't blame the college, blame your crooked eyeballs. You grabbed the wrong column in the Trailer Towing Selector for a 2010 F-150.

Your pickup has a tow rating of 5,300 pounds, not 5400 as you stated. GCWR is 10,600 pounds. So subtract 5,300 from 10,600 and you can tow a trailer that grosses 5,300 pounds only when your wet and loaded pickup also grosses less than 5,300 pounds before you tie onto the trailer.

As to public colleges, I have a BBA from Texas A&M and an MBA from the Graduate School of Business at the University of Texas at Austin. Both public colleges. And I've never had any problem in competing with those who have graduate degrees from Princeton, Stanford, Northwestern or other expensive private schools.

I have a standard cab.... so mine is 5400.... I copied that showing the "standard" engine for all ford 4x2' f150's that year is the 4.6 248 Hp engine... I should have posted all three columms for you....go back and read my original post...the towing capacity for my vehicle is 5400 lbs as I put in my original post..... I came here looking for assistance and from the very beginning you start off giving grammar lessons... thanks anyway....
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I have a standard cab.... so mine is 5400....
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STX 4x2 Super Cab Styleside 6.5 ft. box
Make up your mind. One place you say you have a standard cab, and another place you say you have a SuperCab. Which is it?
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Make up your mind. One place you say you have a standard cab, and another place you say you have a SuperCab. Which is it?

I just explained to you in the previous post where the "SuperCab" came from. I never said I had a SuperCab... This is what I initially posted and it is correct.

Travel Trailer
Shipping weight is 3711 lbs...
Carrying capacity 1695 lbs...
Hitch weight 495 lbs...

Tow Vehicle
2010 Ford F-150 4,963
GCWR 10,400
GVWR 6,450
Front GAWR 3,150
Rear GAWR 3,500
Max tow capacity 5,400

Go back and read your post where you corrected my grammar. You acknowledged I had a regular cab.

Your words....."But if you meant a 2010 F-150 regular cab shorty 4x2 with 3.55 axle ratio and automatic tranny, then the tow rating is 5,400 pounds".

I said from the beginning that I'm not an expert...I didn't come here to argue but you seem determined to argue with everything I say. Regardless, I thank you for all the info you provided. We both know I'm at the upper limit. I'm sure you have plenty of knowledge concerning towing and you are an educated man. Try offering real assistance to the newbies instead of offering grammar lessons and arguing with them... Go back and read your first post...it starts with "Poor choice of words" ....

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