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Old 09-25-2015, 05:41 PM   #43
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"GMC HD2500 Duramax with GAWR rear of 6200#, GVWR of 10,000# and a curb weight of 6255#"

Read Post #41 above--according to his SCALE weight, you might weigh 1900lbs more than you think.

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Old 09-26-2015, 12:19 AM   #44
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chrisansilve,

"GMC HD2500 Duramax with GAWR rear of 6200#, GVWR of 10,000# and a curb weight of 6255#"

Read Post #41 above--according to his SCALE weight, you might weigh 1900lbs more than you think.

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The key word here is "CURB" weight. That is the weight as the truck comes off the assembly line. From what I remember, they do calculate it with a 150 lb driver. Really ? How many of you guys weigh 150 lbs ? Again fill with fuel, people, accessories, camping gear, etc. and then take it and get it weighed. Or at least with fuel and normal passenger load as going camping. You can calculate additional weight as you add it later. I almost ordered mine as a two wheel drive to save the approximately 300 or more lbs of the front wheel differential. Then I came to my senses and thought how embarrassing it would be to have all that HP and torque, and be sitting there spinning in wet grass or mud or gravel and no way to get the power to the ground.


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Old 09-26-2015, 11:14 AM   #45
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Amen to that Bill. Sides, as far as I'm concerned if you have to worry about a couple or three hundred pounds making you grossly overloaded, you're probably to close to your limit anyway.
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I just read on motor trend app about the 2016 gm hd trucks. The are finally going to the standardized tow ratings. The 2500 crew cab 4x4 they used as an example the tow rating dropped over 3000 pounds. Wow that's gotta hurt.

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I just read on motor trend app about the 2016 gm hd trucks. The are finally going to the standardized tow ratings. The 2500 crew cab 4x4 they used as an example the tow rating dropped over 3000 pounds. Wow that's gotta hurt.

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Thanks for that info. I just went to their website and read that. Regular trailer towing stays at 13,000 lb max, but 5th wheel towing drops from a little over 17,000 to a little over 14,000 . 20% of that is 2,800 lbs and 25% is 3,500 lbs of pin weight, STILL WAY TOO MUCH to fall within the 10,000 GVWR for mine and other similar trucks since I had already figured the 1,860 lbs as the most I could do.


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Manufacturers' dry weights on trailers in specs are just about always much less than reality. It's the king pin weight on 3/4 ton trucks that's the problem.

Your trailer's too heavy for your truck--simply put. You need a 1 ton dually.
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For what its worth,, my brand new (2 days old) 2015 Silverado 2500 LTZ 4x4 Duramax crew cab short bed with 7/8 tank of fuel and me , (165 lbs) weighed at work this morning,,, 4680 lbs fr, 3080 lbs rear. This with the trailering package of course....
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The only reason I look at cap by the manf is so I don't exceed their waurranty.
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When figuring weights I found these figures:

Water - 8.3 gal
Gas - 5.6 gal
Diesal - 6.8 gal
Propane - 4.2 gal
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That's right in line with mine.

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For what its worth,, my brand new (2 days old) 2015 Silverado 2500 LTZ 4x4 Duramax crew cab short bed with 7/8 tank of fuel and me , (165 lbs) weighed at work this morning,,, 4680 lbs fr, 3080 lbs rear. This with the trailering package of course....
Congratulations on your new truck, they are awesome.
That's right in line with mine. Like I said, mine was 8,140 and that was completely full of fuel (as in went from the fuel pumps to the scale about 200 feet away), my wife with me, and I weigh close to 200. I got the factory spray in bed liner which weighs ?, and the power steps that weigh around 100 or more. I almost wish I wasn't aware of all these things, haaa. The 2500 series just a couple of years ago were only rated at 9,200 lbs GVWR, and ours are 10,000. I saw a post from a guy on one of the FB RV pages, about him having air bags on his 250 Ford, and that he has a pin weight on his huge trailer at about 3,300 lbs. He is probably 1,500 lbs over GVWR at minimum and if he is like a lot of these guys that have a huge tool box or extra fuel tank, he may be around 2,000 or more lbs overweight.
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Congratulations on your new truck, they are awesome.
That's right in line with mine. Like I said, mine was 8,140 and that was completely full of fuel (as in went from the fuel pumps to the scale about 200 feet away), my wife with me, and I weigh close to 200. I got the factory spray in bed liner which weighs ?, and the power steps that weigh around 100 or more. I almost wish I wasn't aware of all these things, haaa. The 2500 series just a couple of years ago were only rated at 9,200 lbs GVWR, and ours are 10,000. I saw a post from a guy on one of the FB RV pages, about him having air bags on his 250 Ford, and that he has a pin weight on his huge trailer at about 3,300 lbs. He is probably 1,500 lbs over GVWR at minimum and if he is like a lot of these guys that have a huge tool box or extra fuel tank, he may be around 2,000 or more lbs overweight.
Thanks for the congrads !!! This is only my second brand new vehicle in my 57 yrs.... It was hard to go back in debt... Why is your truck over 500 lbs lighter in the front? Is it diesel? I know scales varie.... Just getting used to mine... Hopefully it will last a long time.... Monkey.
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You can lead a horse to water, but you cant make him drink. Only other thing I can say is...... FOOLISH IDEA!
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Motor trend changes

This is what Motor Trend says about the changes in tow ratings:

Now that the 2016 Silverado HD has adopted the SAE J2807, towing and payload have changed across the board, though some ratings remain the same. A 2016 Silverado 2500HD double cab with 4WD and a 3.73 rear axle, for example, is rated to tow 13,000 pounds, which is unchanged from model-year 2015. Towing with a fifth wheel setup, however, is rated at 14,200 pounds, compared to 17,300 pounds before the adoption of SAE testing. The entire Ram lineup switched to the new standard last summer, while Ford isn't completely on board The Blue Oval uses the SAE J2807 ratings for the F-150, but not the F-250 or F-350.
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From what I understand RAM had adopted the rating on all their trucks since the 2013 MY.

The ford 450 is rated also.
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