2016 Titan XD Diesel Cummins

[IamJerryP]

Anybody towing with this vehicle.
It is a recent release by Nissan.
I have driven it, and it is nice.
Pulls 12K
I really like it, but am looking for some owner experiences.

[SmokeyWren]

Originally Posted by IamJerryP

It is a recent release by Nissan... am looking for some owner experiences.

It's a brand new model, so there is not much experience on the road yet. I passed an unloaded one on I-20 and it looks good.

Cummins 5L turbo-diesel, with 310 HP and 555 lb/ft torque. That's more than my '99 7.3L F-250 PowerStroke had, and that drivetrain could easily pull my 8k 5er over hill and dale.


Maximum towing capacity (lbs.) 12,300
Maximum payload (lbs.) 2,000

That's more than my F-150 EcoBoost.

Those "maximum" weights are usually a wet dream, but you could count on being able to tow a 6,000-pound TT, and maybe a 7,000-pound TT without exceeding any of the weight limits. My F-150 is barely broken in with about 75,000 miles on it, but in another couple of years I'll look into the Titan XD diesel.

[timetogo]

The gasoline version is also interesting.

https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=FAv0sCJycCk

[Cumminsfan]

The payload rating in the XD diesel is too low for a 5th wheel. Fine but marginal for a travel trailer. MPG is also on the low side. It seems like Nissan has capable truck but it falls short in the towing department. Heck you can tow 12,000 with an F150 V6 and get better mpg when empty. Why spend all the extra money for the Nissan XD diesel?
I think they missed the mark, but time will tell.
Ford has upped the anty on with the new improved version of their Eco Boost 3.5 by revamping it and adding 30lbs of tq. Up to 450 tq now.

[JIMNLIN]

Its biggest weak point is a small 4800 RAWR which limits loads to around 2100-2200 lbs.
A 12k 5th wheel trailer @ 20% hitch weight = around 2400 lbs.

My old '03 Dodge/Cummins HPCR engine has similar numbers at 305 hp/555 torque and easily pulls my 16k tri axle GN trailer.

The Titan XD with the diesel option will be a strong 1/2 ton tow engine for lite weight 5th wheels and heavier TTs......and smaller truck campers.

[IamJerryP]

Originally Posted by Cumminsfan

The payload rating in the XD diesel is too low for a 5th wheel. Fine but marginal for a travel trailer. MPG is also on the low side. It seems like Nissan has capable truck but it falls short in the towing department. Heck you can tow 12,000 with an F150 V6 and get better mpg when empty. Why spend all the extra money for the Nissan XD diesel?
I think they missed the mark, but time will tell.
Ford has upped the anty on with the new improved version of their Eco Boost 3.5 by revamping it and adding 30lbs of tq. Up to 450 tq now.

Not to argue

I checked Ford specs when I started a truck hunt, none of the 1/2 ford super crews 4x4 can haul as much as the XD
But it pretty much out hauls anything 1/2 ton,
Not really surprising as it is a diesel, and no other company offer a diesel 1/2 ton

https://www.ford.com/resources/ford/...0_r2_oct23.pdf

The Titan XD mileage while towing, is at the top of the heap, and only behind the Colorado/Canyon

Then there is the issue of actual pulling comfort, and safety
The Titan comes in at a monstrous 7500lbs empty, which makes it a lot more stable to pull heavy loads, and has some monster brakes.
It falls short of all the 3/4 ton trucks, in towing limits, but mileage, and ride are superior.

The number, and spec look good on the Titan, and Nissan tends to spec rather conservatively. and of course the Cummin engine is attractive.
All the subjective testing reviews are quite positive, TFLTrucks on you tube have the best driving/towing/mileage testing, and test the same for every truck they review.
Plus it comes setup for a goose neck trailer.


Which while that review stuff is good, I want to hear some real world experience from normal people.

I have no intention of a hauling a large 5th wheel camper, so I am not sure I need the 1 ton truck, but maybe a 3/4 is a better choice. everything I am interested in, at this time, is around 7-8 k in weight.

[IamJerryP]

Originally Posted by timetogo

The gasoline version is also interesting.

Other than the typical Nissan low mileage, The gas version might be a better option for me, Their engine do last forever, but they certainly are not maximized for best possible mileage.

But I kind really want a diesel truck
Both come setup with a Goose neck, and towing package.
Of course the initial cost of a gas version is less

[archer75]

What's nice about the nissan is it's using the aisin transmission available in the 1 ton ram and the rear end from a dodge power wagon. Some pretty serious brakes too. It's a pretty tough truck for something that's positioned as an in between a half ton and 3/4 ton. But it's priced like any other 3/4 ton truck but with much less torque and thousands of pounds less towing capacity.

As far as payload ratings, 2000lbs for the diesel and 2500lbs for the gas. My 2015 Ram diesel is around 2300lbs so not much different.

If they committed to just being a true 3/4 and getting towing up to around 17,000lbs like the ram diesel it may make more sense at the price point. I do like the looks of it and love the interior. And I formerly owned a Titan and it was a great truck. I have no doubts that this will be a solid truck too and will be able to pull any travel trailer out there.

I still prefer the inline 6 of the ram cummins versus the V8 of the nissan. Less parts to break and replace. Approximately 40% less parts.

I'd like to see thefastlane truck do their ike gauntlet towing review with the gas version just for comparison.

[IamJerryP]

Originally Posted by archer75

What's nice about the nissan is it's using the aisin transmission available in the 1 ton ram and the rear end from a dodge power wagon. Some pretty serious brakes too. It's a pretty tough truck for something that's positioned as an in between a half ton and 3/4 ton. But it's priced like any other 3/4 ton truck but with much less torque and thousands of pounds less towing capacity.

As far as payload ratings, 2000lbs for the diesel and 2500lbs for the gas. My 2015 Ram diesel is around 2300lbs so not much different.

If they committed to just being a true 3/4 and getting towing up to around 17,000lbs like the ram diesel it may make more sense at the price point. I do like the looks of it and love the interior. And I formerly owned a Titan and it was a great truck. I have no doubts that this will be a solid truck too and will be able to pull any travel trailer out there.

I still prefer the inline 6 of the ram cummins versus the V8 of the nissan. Less parts to break and replace. Approximately 40% less parts.

I'd like to see thefastlane truck do their ike gauntlet towing review with the gas version just for comparison.

Agree with you about the pricing, seems a little steep, It has a lot of options that do not interest me. 50k is a lot for any truck, but more in line with the 3/4, and 1 tons, which it is not.

[chertz]

While the Nissan does in fact use a transmission made by Aisin, it is not the same model as is used in the 3500 Ram trucks. It is somewhat smaller and lighter, but I don't know the exact specs on it.

[Scottybdivin]

The Titan XD Platinum Extreme that I drove, only had a 1390 lb payload. It was a very impressive vehicle and I assume would have power to spare. Just doesn't have the suspension to handle it's towing capacity, nor can it be flat towed w/o an aftermarket product to disengage the dive line.

[archer75]

Originally Posted by chertz

While the Nissan does in fact use a transmission made by Aisin, it is not the same model as is used in the 3500 Ram trucks. It is somewhat smaller and lighter, but I don't know the exact specs on it.

"Harnessing the engine’s torque is a new Aisin six-speed automatic dubbed A466ND. In case you were wondering, the transmission isn’t new either. Inside an entirely new housing (without a PTO) sits the same basic transmission found in the aforementioned RAM 3500 with 900 lbs-ft. This is not a light-duty transmission by any means."

2016 Nissan Titan XD – Towing with the 5/8-Ton Truck

http://www.equipmentworld.com/review...ts-own-videos/

Perhaps putting in that tranny with the rear end it's got helps to justify the price point. Components from 1 ton trucks.
It also does have a ton of features not found in heavier duty trucks.
I really just wish the tow rating was higher as well as the torque. And an exhaust brake. I'm really surprised cummins didn't put one on it.

At any rate, check out that link. It's a good read.

[chertz]

Originally Posted by archer75

"Harnessing the engine’s torque is a new Aisin six-speed automatic dubbed A466ND. In case you were wondering, the transmission isn’t new either. Inside an entirely new housing (without a PTO) sits the same basic transmission found in the aforementioned RAM 3500 with 900 lbs-ft. This is not a light-duty transmission by any means."

2016 Nissan Titan XD – Towing with the 5/8-Ton Truck

http://www.equipmentworld.com/review...ts-own-videos/

Perhaps putting in that tranny with the rear end it's got helps to justify the price point. Components from 1 ton trucks.
It also does have a ton of features not found in heavier duty trucks.
I really just wish the tow rating was higher as well as the torque. And an exhaust brake. I'm really surprised cummins didn't put one on it.

At any rate, check out that link. It's a good read.

I stand corrected. .. thanks!