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Old 08-30-2016, 12:43 AM   #1
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2016 Tundra Payload issue- HELP!!!

Hello, I have a friend that bought a 2016 Toyota Limited tundra crew Max 4 x 4. His doorjamb says the payload maximum capacity is 1175 pounds but when we look at the toyota brochure online it says 1530 pounds. He is concerned that he is going to be over with his wife + 3 kids in the truck. All the passengers weigh 500 lbs total. He is thinking about getting a Keystone Passport 2810 BH Ultra Lite but now is concerned with being over. The trailer weighs 565 pounds tongue weight and 5145 pounds dry.

Does anyone out there personally have experience with this setup or know the TRUE specs on the 2016 Crewmax 4x4 Limited Tundra? Will be be ok with this trailer? He wants to be safe but is unsure on what to believe. Brochure says something and the door jamb says another.

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The door jamb sticker states DOT legal weights and capacities.

A brochure is nothing but marketing material. No surprise it's inaccurate to the high side.
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door sticker is the correct numbers for THAT TRUCK..

as trim levels ADD weight to truck, lower trim levels CAN carry more weight IF drivetrain is the same.

and have him make sure the Trailer weight is as posted... many are wrong.. again like the truck literature.. its all sales hype.

my trailer is 800 pounds more then both trailer weight tags .. an increase by 11 percent. completely EMPTY. 7,500 to 8,300.
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Here is a link which shows the basic specs for his model:

2016 Toyota Tundra - Limited 5.7L 4x4 CrewMax Specifications | Autobytel.com

Yes, the payload shows 1530 lbs., but doesn't include any add-ons. The door sticker should show the rating for the truck "as delivered" to the dealer.
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The door sticker states 1175 lbs. if all passengers, pets, gear, come in at 500 lbs, he still has 675 lbs. left for the truck. The weight for the full tank of fuel is already calculated in the vehicles sticker payload.

A weight distribution hitch would help.
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Thank you everyone for the feedback. We will go with the door jamb numbers. However, does the trailer weight mentioned in my post seem a little on the high side for this truck at 1175 lbs payload capacity?


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Yeah, his Tundra has the Limited trim, which is about 355 pounds heavier than the basic Tundra trim.

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He is thinking about getting a Keystone Passport 2810 BH Ultra Lite but now is concerned with being over. The trailer weighs 565 pounds tongue weight and 5145 pounds dry.
Using dry weight guarantees that he will be overloaded when he loads the trailer up with normal stuff and gets on the highway. That trailer has GVWR of 7200 pounds and it will weigh more than 6,000 pounds when wet and lightly loaded for camping. Tongue weight (TW) will be at least 750 pounds, plus another 100 pounds for the weight-distributing hitch, so hitch weight will be at least 850 pounds. That doesn't leave much payload capacity for people and stuff, so that's too much trailer for that tow vehicle.

It's easy to check the real-world payload capacity of that pickup. Load it up with everybody and everything that will be in it when towing. Drive to a truck stop that has a certified automated truck (CAT) scale, fill up with gas, and weigh the wet and loaded Tundra. Subtract the weight of the wet and loaded Tundra from the GVWR of the Tundra and the answer is the payload capacity available for TW. IOW, the maximum TW he can tow without being overloaded. If it's not at least 750 pounds, then he needs to forgetabout that trailer and find one with less weight. With three kiddos, probably his best bet would be a pop-up tent camper with GVWR less than 4,000 pounds.

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He is concerned that he is going to be over with his wife + 3 kids in the truck.
Even with the payload capacity of over 1,500 pounds, he would probably be overloaded when wet and loaded on the road with that trailer. Most half-ton pickups are limited to gross trailer weight of around 5,000 pounds before exceeding the payload capacity of their pickup. And depending on the tools and options and accessories you haul in the pickup, even 5,000 pounds will be too much trailer. My TT grosses 4,780 when wet and loaded for the road, with just me and DW in the truck, but I'm overloaded by 100 pounds over the payload capacity of my half-ton pickup, which has payload capacity of 1,566 pounds.
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That is great info SmokyWren. Thank you for the detailed explanation! I think he will just keep shopping for a lighter trailer and be safe.


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Thank you everyone for the feedback. We will go with the door jamb numbers. However, does the trailer weight mentioned in my post seem a little on the high side for this truck at 1175 lbs payload capacity?


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Yes!
Keep in mind that the trailer weight ratings are just as incorrect as the truck brochure.
For example, the hitch weight does NOT include the house battery or propane tanks which essentially sit directly on the hitch. To figure out the "wet" hitch weight, use about 15% of the GROSS trailer weight.
Most mid size TTs end up with 700-1000lbs on the hitch when loaded. Toy haulers can go way higher.
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