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Old 09-30-2015, 08:05 PM   #57
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27000 miles on mine now. Love the 4:10's. Rarely run solo, but on occasion have had it at 80. DW confessed to having it at 95+ just to try it. Don't recommend such behavior. She is a 77 year old delinquent. I gave up decades ago.
I have never had such a smooth ride at 103 as my 11 HO RAM Dually! 2,300 RPM's with 3:42's. Wife had no idea I was going that fast. Need to open up the new one and see what the limit is set at. RPM's will be MUCH higher with the 4:10's!!!
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I have never had such a smooth ride at 103 as my 11 HO RAM Dually! 2,300 RPM's with 3:42's. Wife had no idea I was going that fast. Need to open up the new one and see what the limit is set at. RPM's will be MUCH higher with the 4:10's!!!
What are you tacking at 60? Mine is supposed to have 4.10s and I tack 17-1800 at 60.
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Took a look at the '17 F450 at the TX fair--not too shabby, but not sure it will be worth what the list will be on it when they let the prices out.
I certainly would take one if forced on me as a gift....
But I did get a free Superduty hat.
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That $ figure is the part I am waiting to see. When the PepsiCo F150s hit the lot I went poking around to check them out. An XLT 3.5 with XTR package 3.31 rear and regular tow had a sticker of $53k.

I stopped sniffing around right there.
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I guess that is why most trucks are discounted as much as $10,000 or more. I agree the sticker price is in nose bleed territory. But after the discount the price is slightly more tolerable.

Seems the Rams are a good bang for the $$$ as they are discounted the most around here followed by Ford discounts.
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What are you tacking at 60? Mine is supposed to have 4.10s and I tack 17-1800 at 60.
Same as yours.
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Ram is now at 900 ft/lb so if they are gonna be best in class it has to have more.

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Only if you have a Ram! Ford is fine the way it is. Ram is playing games like they all do. If you want a complete rig get the blue oval.
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I heard that Ford has cornered the Aluminum market and now other manufacturers are having trouble getting it for their hoods.

I am not so sure if mass produced Aluminum bodied trucks is such a good idea.
Aluminum bodies are here with us to stay. GM was working on engineering their next generation aluminum Silverado even before their last steel model changeover came in.

And there are a number of aluminum companies in the process of changing over to rolling mills that will handle the new alloy aluminum like Ford's using. Alcoa is making a substantial investment in new facilities for auto aluminum sheeting. Constellium is in the process of adding 1,200 more employees for auto sheeting, however they're running into union problems right now.
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Ram also said their next gen Ram will likely be aluminum bodied.
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Just checked - there is more Aluminium in the earths crust than Iron/Steel. Makes me wonder why aluminium was not used from the start. Probably Iron ore was easier to smelt.

I hope everyone uses the same alloy so it can easily be recycled. I would hate a recycle bin for Ram one for Chevy and one for Ford. That is just too many recycle bins.

Anyone buy stock in Alcoa yet?
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Opps...failed to mention that I can recycle Pepsi cans with Coke cans. Just want the same for Ram, Chevy Ford, Acrua NSX, and any other aluminum bodied vehicles.
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I hope everyone uses the same alloy so it can easily be recycled. I would hate a recycle bin for Ram one for Chevy and one for Ford. That is just too many recycle bins.
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The USN has used aluminum in it warships for years. Started in WWII. The biggest issues are with aluminum and steel interaction that causes corrosion and also with cracking. We have spent millions to fix cracks.
Cracks plague Ticonderoga-class cruisers | Navy Times | navytimes.com

Another thing that concerns me about the aluminum body panels is they are secured to the steel frame and supports with rivets.
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Agree that where Aluminum is attached there will be corrision. Aluminum is tricky to weld and used to be tricky to paint.

But I believe there are millions of cars on the road with aluminum hoods. And the paint is staying on.

I do find it interesting that on the smaller F-150 Ford says it saves up to 700 lbs. in weight but on the larger heavy duty it is just saving 300 lbs. in weight.
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Agree that where Aluminum is attached there will be corrision. Aluminum is tricky to weld and used to be tricky to paint.

But I believe there are millions of cars on the road with aluminum hoods. And the paint is staying on.

I do find it interesting that on the smaller F-150 Ford says it saves up to 700 lbs. in weight but on the larger heavy duty it is just saving 300 lbs. in weight.
On the larger trucks they rolled the weight savings into the frame and running gear.
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