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07-20-2019, 11:43 AM
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3/4 ton truck enough to pull 39’ 5th wheel RV
Just purchased a 2015 39’ 5th wheel RV. Max weight is 16,361 lbs., empty is 12,975lbs. I’m now searching for a truck to pull this with.
Is this too much trailer for a diesel Chevy/GMC/Ram 2500 or Ford 250?
I believe it is, although I see 3/4 ton trucks pulling large trailer all the time, even 40+’ toy haulers.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks!
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07-20-2019, 11:47 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVluvin
Just purchased a 2015 39’ 5th wheel RV. Max weight is 16,361 lbs., empty is 12,975lbs. I’m now searching for a truck to pull this with.
Is this too much trailer for a diesel Chevy/GMC/Ram 2500 or Ford 250?
I believe it is, although I see 3/4 ton trucks pulling large trailer all the time, even 40+’ toy haulers.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks!
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I would suggest that you shouldn't look at the issue from the standpoint if they "can" but what the manufacturers of the truck specify for trailer weights. This is all for safety. Check out the manufacturers web sites for the specs. I have seen 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks pulling some pretty big/long trailers and I just shake my head in disbelief.
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07-20-2019, 11:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Earl II
I would suggest that you shouldn't look at the issue from the standpoint if they "can" but what the manufacturers of the truck specify for trailer weights. This is all for safety. Check out the manufacturers web sites for the specs. I have seen 1/2 ton and 3/4 ton trucks pulling some pretty big/long trailers and I just shake my head in disbelief.
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https://www.chevrolet.com/trucks/sil...IAGw&gclsrc=ds So here would be a start.
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07-20-2019, 11:54 AM
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I wouldn't pull it with mine. My 38' is 13,000 GVWR, it pulls fine but I would not go any larger or heavier. It has nothing to do with the engine as I have plenty of power with my gasser. You are well into 1 ton DRW territory with that rig.
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07-20-2019, 12:57 PM
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The 16300 gvwr 5th wheel trailers can have 3200-3500 lbs of pin weight. Now add a hitch....gear....and people = maybe in the 4000 lb range.
250/2500 trucks have small 6000-6500 RAWR numbers. The trucks rear axle can weigh in the 3000-3200 lb range leaving a 3000lb in the bed payload.
Any 3/4 ton trucks rear axle will be severally over loaded.
A RAWR = the lessor of the axle....tire....rear spring pack.
You would have to mod the trucks rear suspension like air bags....19.5" wheels and tires.
A 16300 GVWR trailer can overload a one ton SRW truck also depending on year and model selections.
In my former life I was a commercial hauler with these size trucks and trailers. JMO from actual experience but a 16k lb trailer is in one ton DRW country.
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07-20-2019, 12:58 PM
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16K GVWR is into NEW 3500 SRW range OR older DRW due to WET PIN weight which Rear Axle has to carry
16K wet pin will be close 3200# - 3400# range
Add that to hitch weight, trucks scaled weight and passengers/stuff weight....
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07-20-2019, 01:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVluvin
Just purchased a 2015 39’ 5th wheel RV. Max weight is 16,361 lbs., empty is 12,975lbs. I’m now searching for a truck to pull this with.
Is this too much trailer for a diesel Chevy/GMC/Ram 2500 or Ford 250?
I believe it is, although I see 3/4 ton trucks pulling large trailer all the time, even 40+’ toy haulers.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks!
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Go with an F350/3500 series truck. I promise, there's a difference in how they tow. I've had F250s and F350s before. Not the same model year, but only 2 years off. (2008 job 3 and 2010). The 350 stopped much better and just seemed more sure footed on the road.
Also, go DRW if at all possible. It feels big at first, but you get used to it really quick. I take mine through the drive-through all the time. It's no big deal. Car washes aren't happening though. Gotta DIY or pay extra for a hand wash only.
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07-20-2019, 02:24 PM
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The cost difference between the 2500 and 3500 is negligible. It's worth the extra $1500 for the additional payload. The question you should be asking is, do I need a duel rear wheel truck or will a SWR 3500 suffice. For that I would say probably not, but it wouldn't hurt. And the ride to the campground will be much better.
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07-20-2019, 02:47 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by RVluvin
Just purchased a 2015 39’ 5th wheel RV. Max weight is 16,361 lbs., empty is 12,975lbs. I’m now searching for a truck to pull this with.
Is this too much trailer for a diesel Chevy/GMC/Ram 2500 or Ford 250?
I believe it is, although I see 3/4 ton trucks pulling large trailer all the time, even 40+’ toy haulers.
Any advice is appreciated, thanks!
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Go straight to a 1 Ton.
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07-20-2019, 02:52 PM
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It's always better to have more truck than you need when towing....
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07-20-2019, 03:37 PM
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Howdy!
The new 2020 Chevrolet/GMC 2500 with Duramax and new 10 speed Allison transmission would do it. But if your going SRW I would spend the money and step up to the 3500.
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07-20-2019, 03:54 PM
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07-20-2019, 09:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JIMNLIN
The 16300 gvwr 5th wheel trailers can have 3200-3500 lbs of pin weight. Now add a hitch....gear....and people = maybe in the 4000 lb range.
250/2500 trucks have small 6000-6500 RAWR numbers. The trucks rear axle can weigh in the 3000-3200 lb range leaving a 3000lb in the bed payload.
Any 3/4 ton trucks rear axle will be severally over loaded.
A RAWR = the lessor of the axle....tire....rear spring pack.
You would have to mod the trucks rear suspension like air bags....19.5" wheels and tires.
A 16300 GVWR trailer can overload a one ton SRW truck also depending on year and model selections.
In my former life I was a commercial hauler with these size trucks and trailers. JMO from actual experience but a 16k lb trailer is in one ton DRW country.
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Lots of good info, Thank you.
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07-20-2019, 11:44 PM
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I did this - chased a lot of good money after bad (full air rid, 19.5s, etc) trying to get it where I wanted it, and eventually ended up buying a DRW. It will work stock, but be overloaded and uncomfortable. It will be comfortable in most conditions with some serious mods but technically illegal. But it will never be as comfortable as the right truck for the job.
My trailer is 39', 12,800# dry, and has >3,200#pin last time I checked thanks to the front W/D and front basement genset. Skip the headache and get a 1T SRW or preferably DRW, if you intend to have an aux tank and carry a lot of gear with you.
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