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Old 11-02-2005, 07:54 PM   #29
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Alot of 98 and newer input. I pull a 10 5er with a 97 stock CTD 3500 and feel the pain. Stock gears too. Anyone have a CHEAP solutions for my towing issues. I cant afford 4k for a new tranny upgrade and there is no chip for 12 valvers.

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Old 11-03-2005, 01:15 AM   #30
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Same answer as for a 24V, Ranger. Give TST a call & tell them you are interested in a #10 torque plate. Your towing will be much more fun. LP
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Old 11-03-2005, 05:09 AM   #31
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by retired_ranger:
Alot of 98 and newer input. I pull a 10 5er with a 97 stock CTD 3500 and feel the pain. Stock gears too. Anyone have a CHEAP solutions for my towing issues. I cant afford 4k for a new tranny upgrade and there is no chip for 12 valvers.

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There are two things you can do. (1) Change the timing in the engine at the P7100 injection pump. I've heard 300hp is possilbe at 14 degrees. A throttle plate may be necessary for the change. There is web site that describes the modification that does not take long to do.
I will find it and edit this post with the web site. Don't have it handy right now.

Here is one of the site that talks about the timing issue without modifications. Still need to find the other; http://dodgeram.info/tsb/1994/18-10-94a.htm

Here is the other one that when done will increase your engine power;
http://dodgeram.org/tech/dsl/more_power/power_p7100.htm

(2) Change the rear from what ever it is to 4:10. That will help with the extra strain on the tranny and make your towing much smoother. It will reduce your fuel mileage when not towing, but not that much as long as you stay under 1900 rpms when running. You may be able to find the rear in a junk yard under a dodge truck. Just change the entire housing. Its quicker to do it that way as long as the rear is ok.

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Old 11-03-2005, 12:46 PM   #32
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Tim,
How fast do you need to go up a hill? I am towing GCW of 24,000 with a stock 03 HO six speed with 4.10. I am very happy with the performance. I am still stock, but you put an EZ box on her and it will improve performance quite a bit. I have never found myself in such a hurry that I need to stress my equipment just to prove I can be to the top of the hill first - - I realize I am quite heavy and relax and enjoy the trip. I pull 5% in sixth. 6% will take 5th gear unless I hit it at above 60 and it isn't over a mile or so long - - if so, drop to 5th gear.

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Old 11-03-2005, 04:38 PM   #33
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I guess I'm on a Cummins power trip. We are only pulling about 6000 lbs now and pretty much just travel the speed limit. Get a real warm feeling passing other rigs. Need to get a new mind set when I'm up over 20k. Been looking at 5vers in the 10500 range unloaded.

You have gone a long way to make me feel better about the new load. I'm guessing your Carriage is about 15-16k or so?

Thanks for your input
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Old 11-04-2005, 06:14 PM   #34
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by tim k:
FiverBob,
I guess I'm on a Cummins power trip. We are only pulling about 6000 lbs now and pretty much just travel the speed limit. Get a real warm feeling passing other rigs. Need to get a new mind set when I'm up over 20k. Been looking at 5vers in the 10500 range unloaded.

You have gone a long way to make me feel better about the new load. I'm guessing your Carriage is about 15-16k or so?

Thanks for your input </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Just to throw in my nickel, we're at about 22,000# GCWR with our 3500 3.73 6 speed. Pulls 5 and 5% grades OK even at 6-7000' above sea level. Could it use more power? Yes. Is it worth it? Nah.

We'll just tootle along at 70 or so.

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Hello Tim,

I'm running a Ram 3500 4x4, drw 4x4 with the 610 ctd. That truck will pull anything you want to with the 3:73. I pull a 31' Laredo (close to 12k loaded) and It'll run as fast as I feel like, at 80 mph milage declines fast. The sweet spot is about 1900 rpm at close to 70 mph with the 3:73. My brother in law towed a Avion 36' with a 97 3500 ctd with 3:55 gears for years with out a problem. He literally ran from one in of the counrty to the other pipelining.

Have fun passing on the hills.

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Old 12-15-2005, 05:10 PM   #36
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Gary,
Thanks for your reply. We've allready made the deal on our 5th wheel. I was concerned, but your right, we can pull a 6-7% grade and keep it close to 50. Awsom motor. We made the right choice.
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