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Old 03-12-2018, 01:48 PM   #1
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5er Rig Help

To pull a Grand Design 295RL. 10k# gvwr. Hitch weight 1391. 33í length

I want to buy an 18 F250 gasser, crew, 4x4:
10000 payload package
Less 6500 curb weight=3500
Less 400 for bodies incl dog = 3100
Less 252 for 36 gals fuel = 2848
Less 200 for 5er Hitch, etc = 2648
Less 2000 for 20% of 10k max trailer weight = 648 remaining?
Truck 5er tow rating is 12,600

Yes, I know that doesnít leave room to move up but that isnít my concern now, I have an in on an F250, not 350.

Based on the above numbers Iíd be ok?

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Based on those numbers you should be fine.
I wish my numbers looked that good!
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Old 03-12-2018, 01:56 PM   #3
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Numbers look fine.

I don't know what "in" you have on a F250 but getting cheap deals on trucks is easy to do if you know what you're doing. Invoice minus rebates without haggling is easy. With working dealers I can sometimes get it even lower.
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If that number is from a brochure you may be surprised at the actual payload sticker. My 2016 F250 supercrew 4x4 gasser with 10,000 pound payload package has just 2450 available payload. You can't drive a brochure, look at the door sticker to be sure.
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If that number is from a brochure you may be surprised at the actual payload sticker. My 2016 F250 supercrew 4x4 gasser with 10,000 pound payload package has just 2450 available payload. You can't drive a brochure, look at the door sticker to be sure.
Absolutely this. The door stick is what you have to go by. It will always differ from the brochure.
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If that number is from a brochure you may be surprised at the actual payload sticker. My 2016 F250 supercrew 4x4 gasser with 10,000 pound payload package has just 2450 available payload. You can't drive a brochure, look at the door sticker to be sure.
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Absolutely this. The door stick is what you have to go by. It will always differ from the brochure.
Gotcha. It’s on the sticker, GVWR 10000 lbs. Thanks
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Numbers look fine.

I don't know what "in" you have on a F250 but getting cheap deals on trucks is easy to do if you know what you're doing. Invoice minus rebates without haggling is easy. With working dealers I can sometimes get it even lower.
Oh Iím a wheeler dealer. Just have a 250 thatís available at a great price. Thx
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GVWR is not payload. Better get some real numbers.
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GVWR is not payload. Better get some real numbers.
Hmmm ok. They asked for the sticker info and....

“Easily found on a label placed inside the driver’s door jamb, the GVWR figure is the maximum weight a GMC truck or SUV is engineered to safely carry. While this figure does not include the total weight of any trailer being towed, it does include the passengers, personal effects, and cargo carried, along with the weight (or the gross vehicle weight) of the truck itself and the tongue weight of the trailer.”

Can someone please clarify where I’m wrong?
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I think your numbers are good. Maybe a bit conservative. Like fuel weight will go down and seldom be a full tank. The hitch will be a few pounds lighter than 200, but you are on the right track as the truck might weigh a bit more more than 6,500lbs.

From what I read a 2018 F-250 gas truck is really an ok truck. The improved frame which Ford really needed helps and the engine is also improved a bit.

I am looking for a 1/2 ton truck but might end up with a F-250 gasser.
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If you took your truck to a scale and weighed it, with you inside and a full tank of fuel, this total weight would then be subtracted from the GVWR to get your payload. Payload is the amt of stuff (dirt, plywood, or RV) that you can carry, while staying below your GVWR. Ex., all up weight (at scale), 7980# from 10k GVWR=2,020 payload. As long as your 5ver hitch weight (with a loaded for camping 5ver) is less than 2,020, and you don't carry anything else (grandkids, kayaks, generators, etc) in the truck or truck bed, then you are within your GVWR. I would't tow a 33' 5ver with a 3/4T, but that's just me.
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Hmmm ok. They asked for the sticker info and....

ďEasily found on a label placed inside the driverís door jamb, the GVWR figure is the maximum weight a GMC truck or SUV is engineered to safely carry. While this figure does not include the total weight of any trailer being towed, it does include the passengers, personal effects, and cargo carried, along with the weight (or the gross vehicle weight) of the truck itself and the tongue weight of the trailer.Ē

Can someone please clarify where Iím wrong?
You're looking for the payload number on the sticker.
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If you took your truck to a scale and weighed it, with you inside and a full tank of fuel, this total weight would then be subtracted from the GVWR to get your payload. Payload is the amt of stuff (dirt, plywood, or RV) that you can carry, while staying below your GVWR. Ex., all up weight (at scale), 7980# from 10k GVWR=2,020 payload. As long as your 5ver hitch weight (with a loaded for camping 5ver) is less than 2,020, and you don't carry anything else (grandkids, kayaks, generators, etc) in the truck or truck bed, then you are within your GVWR. I would't tow a 33' 5ver with a 3/4T, but that's just me.
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6700 curb weight F250 XLT crew 4x4
400 bodies
250 36 gals gas
220 Hitch and extras
7570 ttl truck and stuff

10000 gvwr
-7570 truck and stuff
2430 left
-2000 hitch weight (20% of 9999 trailer gvwr)
430 left
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You're looking for the payload number on the sticker.
I was looking for exactly what it says; total of truck, bodies, stuff, gas, trailer weight. Am I wrong?

Getting confused ....
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