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Old 01-24-2005, 08:25 AM   #15
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Dave,

Thanks for the link. Going with the short bed and crew cab (my target truck) I get:

F-250 - 10,000lbs
F-350 - 11,400lbs

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As a reference point, my '99 F350 crew cab dually on the scale at the land fill with myself, a passanger, and full load of fuel weighed right about 7,700 lbs. Add about another 100 lbs for the hitch and I would be about 7,800 lbs. ready to tow. Remember this is a dually, so it wil be heavier than a single rear wheel truck. My weights were very similar at a different landfill, so I am comfortable the scales were calibrated accurately.
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Old 01-24-2005, 11:14 AM   #17
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I obtained an actual dealer invoice (not the window sticker but what spits out of the computer), and if the shipping weight is to be believed, with all my selected options, it is 6,920 lbs.

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Old 01-24-2005, 12:06 PM   #18
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That sounds about right, just don't forget that its easy to add up to 1000 lbs of "stuff" to the shipping weight with; fuel, driver and passengers, bed mats, nerf bars, 5th wheel hitches, mudflaps, jumper cables, etc. etc. etc.

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ps. My 2001.5 Dodge 2500 QC 4x4 LWB auto weighed 6950 lbs with me and a full tank of diesel. My 2003 Dodge QC 4x4 LWB Dually with all the crap I've bolted on to it is 8338 lbs with me and a full tank of fuel.
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Old 01-24-2005, 12:52 PM   #19
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mdmalone:
Going with the short bed and crew cab (my target truck).... <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Mike,

Please be aware that, by selecting a short bed to tow a 5th wheel, you may have to use a sliding 5th wheel hitch to prevent 5th-wheel-to-cab interference when turning. It all depends on the hitch location, pinbox geometry, width of 5th wheel, distance from centerline of pin to front corners of the 5th wheel, etc. Extended pinboxes help, but you can still get in trouble as you approach 90* angles depending on the trailer dimensions.

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Old 01-24-2005, 02:14 PM   #20
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Rusty,

Thanks. I was wondering about that. It sounds like the slider is the solution. My preference is for a short bed, is this a reason to consider an 8' bed? I would prefer not to have the full bed.

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I guess let me ask this. Will the slider give me the same clearance as if I had a long bed?

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Old 01-24-2005, 02:42 PM   #22
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mdmalone....with a long bed you can haul more than you haul with a short bed.

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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by mdmalone:
I guess let me ask this. Will the slider give me the same clearance as if I had a long bed? <HR></BLOCKQUOTE>Mike,

With the sliding hitch functioning, cab clearance shouldn't be a problem. With a manual slider, though, you have to remember to use it. An automatic sliding hitch is available, but it is somewhat more expensive.

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"AND... most important... it tows a lot better... there is no "white knuckle" experience like with a TT when the winds come up or a big truck or bus passes you at 70 mph.."

I don't know why it was necessary to put this piece of urban legend in this thread, but I can't let it go unchallenged. It has to be challenged because it's a patent overgeneralization.

It is true that some poorly selected or poorly hitched TTs can cause a white knuckle ride. That is not the same thing as the above statement that infers that all TTs cause problems when the wind comes up or a big something passes. That is simply Bravo Sierra.

My TT (and the one before this one) have never, not even once, swayed or caused "white knuckles." That includes losing (not a flat... it was shredded and gone) a tire at 70 mph, Exceeding 80MPH while passing a slow moving car on a two-lane road, emergency swerves, winds in excess of 30 mph... etc, etc. I can't say that I have a lot of experience with big rigs passing as I am usually passing them. No "white knuckles."

A more nearly correct statement would be: Some TTs tow poorly because their owners did not fix whatever was wrong. No TT HAS to give its owner a "white knuckle" drive." A properly selected and hitched TT will tow every bit as good as any fiver.
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For normal driving, and that includes at regular intersections, I shouldn't have to adjust the slide, say to make a right turn from one street to another, would I?

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Mike,

For normal driving situations, I wouldn't think so. Hard right turns entering a parking lot, etc. could require use of the sliding hitch - again, depending on the dimensions and geometry of the 5th wheel RV.

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Old 01-25-2005, 06:22 PM   #27
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I went and took a look at the trailer we bought and the pin actually sits fairly far forward of the front of the trailer. I think I will be ok with a shortbed, at least I wouldn't need a slider unless I really had to manuever into something really ugly.

We'll see how it goes. I think I am going to go with the 1-ton truck, crew cab, shortbed.

Thanks for everyone's help! I'll let you know how it goes.

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I would also suggest that you really look at the 4:10 rear end if you are going to be toward the top of your max weight. I have a F350 with crew cab and a long bed due to the fact I really find a great ride with the extra wheelbase and I don't have a lot of problems getting around town with it. Sometimes I have to take 2 cuts to get into a parking spot but everytime I haul the camper I am glad to have the wheelbase!!

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