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Old 05-22-2016, 01:13 PM   #1
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5th Wheel weight

Help. The tag on the front left corner of my 5er is totally blank.....due to age, and I looked up my RV on Nada guide and it says 4950 axle weight. I am not savvy enough to figure out what that means. Is it that the axle should never weigh more than 4950 or is that the dry weight? Full loaded at the CAT scale it weighed Steer 4380 Drive 4600 and Trailer 5420 with a Total 14,400. That was with fuel full and fresh water full and me on board. Is that over - under or OK?
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Do you know the model or length of your Mallard 5er.
Single axle , under the RV ?
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Have you looked every where in the interior for a weight sticker ?
Should look like this picture , and will have weights, GVWR, on it.
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If you have a single axle, and the trailer weight by scale is 5240, and the 4950 is the axle capacity--yes, you are over on the axle by 290lbs.
You are probably ok on the truck itself. What size/weight rating are the trailer tires? You should never go over tire capacity.
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Looking at the camper in his picture, its a good sized dual axle trailer. I'd suggest looking at the tires on the camper. If they're OEM size, look at the weight rating on them and multiply by 4 for an estimate.

Still, that's a light 5th wheel.
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Couldn't tell it had the 2 axles, but with a scale wt of 5240 that would put the total wt at around 6550--very light fiver. With 2 axles, and 5240 on them, may not need too much tire. 5240/4=1310 on each tire, maybe little more on rears than front looking at the pic. Guess the 4950 she mentioned is poss the axle capacity (5k?) which sounds like overkill for that wt trailer, and unlike a trailer mfg to do that.
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The Mallard is model 26 5N and it is dual axle. I have new ST205 75R15 Goodyear Marathon tires, just bought this month. There is no sticker inside or in the front outside compartment and I couldn't find any info in the manual. Thanks for any info you can suggest.
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The Mallard is model 26 5N and it is dual axle.
Per NADA, the dry gross trailer weight is 4,950. Based on my 2000 Keystone Sprinter 25RKS 5er, you add about 1,300 pounds cargo carrying capacity (CCC) to get GVWR. So GVWR is around 6,250. With the average pin weight of 17%, then the combined GAWR should be about 5,200, or 2,600 GAWR on each axle.

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Full loaded at the CAT scale it weighed ...Trailer 5420...
If my guesses above are accurate, then you were probably slightly overloaded. The "trailer" weight on the CAT scale report is the weight on the trailer axles, and does not include the weight of the kingpin on your truck.

To know for sure, you need to determine the GAWR of your trailer axles. I spent an hour trying to find the specs for a '96 Fleetwood Mallard M-26 5N with no success. Fleetwood discontinued the Mallard over 15 years ago, so specs are hard to find.
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SmokyWren, Thank you so very much for all of your work and your very informative answer!! First chance I get I will re-weigh at a CAT scale & get a re-weigh with truck only to be certain of total trailer only weight. Believe it or not I also spent several hours trying to look up the necessary info and I got under the trailer to see if it was on the axle itself anywhere (NOT). So I TRULY thank you. I know all there is to know about properly loading an 18 wheeler and even understand the "bridge law", but I could not get the info I needed to be sure I was not grossly overloading my 5er.
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