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Old 08-31-2014, 03:51 PM   #1
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Hello all... somewhat new to this site.. I own a '13 3500 SRW long bed crew cab diesel.. Been using a TT for about 14 years,, have a class A CDL, and use my trailer as a remote home while working on the road and spend months at a time living in it,, at times in freezing temps.. current TT is only a 3 season, and want to be able to bring Motorcycle along so I'm thinking about a toy hauler 5th wheel..

because I'm looking for a heaver build, with a attempt at 4th season use (separate issue I know).. I know the unit will get heavy fast.

My truck should max out around a tow of 16800 I believe.. anyone driving a SRW diesel with those weights and how was it.. how does the chevy engine break,, or your brands break work with your tow at those weights.. ??

Im leaning towards a dry weight of 13000 so I can add the bike and a fudge factor..

Ive seen 3/4 tons pulling heavier,, with my 3500 im not trying to suggest im planning on exceeding weight,, just will put it to the endorsed amount.,

thank you and hope some of you post.
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Old 08-31-2014, 07:21 PM   #2
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I did hot shots with srw F350 with a 7.3l and a 6 speed worked great up to 24k my fathers new 6.7 will tow 29k not shore what a chevy will pull hope this helps
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Old 08-31-2014, 08:37 PM   #3
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I recognize the limitations of my F250 with the same rear springs as the F350 SRW. PIN weight is still the biggest enemy of a single rear wheel vehicle.

I'd want a 1 ton dual rear wheel truck if I was going to tow 14K lbs.+ loaded. Such a trailer's going to be very heavy on the PIN.
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Old 08-31-2014, 09:30 PM   #4
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You are in DRW range with those numbers. Tow rating means nada. You need to go by your weight capacity numbers. There on your truck, on the drivers door.
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You are in DRW range with those numbers. Tow rating means nada. You need to go by your weight capacity numbers. There on your truck, on the drivers door.

are you addressing my post?? I disagree if so as I don't see how numbers I gave could lead you to think such. please explain.,
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Old 08-31-2014, 11:51 PM   #6
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my Chevy SRW 3500 has

GVWR of 11600
GAWR Rear 7050
GAWR Front 6000
GCWR 24500
these numbers from my door with the GCWR from a tow guide.

The Tow guide for my year with 4x4 longbed crewcab says 5th wheel limit for 16800,, have also seen it as 16900.

How could looking at dry weight of 13000 be out of this trucks ability? I understand the GVWR not to be actual weight but max weight with payload and truck weight combined., this would include pin weight under use but not the combined weight including the rest of the trailer that would be the GCWR of 24500...

I do hope others chime in...
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Old 09-01-2014, 05:53 AM   #7
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Check the Pin Box weight of the new 5vr you are looking at. You should be OK unless it up around 3k. I had no issues with my 03 3500 SB Cummins QC towing 12K and a pin weight of 2.5k with a 50gallon in bed tank full of fuel. These newer trucks have a higher tow rating and the max bed weight you can carry is 4.7K and tow 17 TT MAX.
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Here is an example of real world, my combo.

Info on our 2013 F350-DRW 2wd and Brookstone 354TS.

====350 Ratings===Without Trailer== With Trailer
GAW-F ==5,250.======4,500==============4,540.
GAW-R ==9,650.======4,000==============7,340.
TRLR===15,500.========================11,240. axles 2x7000
TRLR===15,500.========================14,580. total
GCWR===30,500.========================23,120.
GVWr===14,000.========================11,880.
Carry capacity=====6,151
PIN weight======3,340

Truck and trailer loaded with fuel, water 2/3 full (about 55 gal).


You will note, that with my trailer in the real world, you would be over your GAW-R and GVWR.

Also you will notice that you would be over with my trailer that is 500 lbs lighter dry than what you want to buy.

What is the carrying capacity on your truck? It's on the tire sticker on the door generally. Says the combined weight of occupants and cargo should not exceed....

That is an important number and one the 3/4 crowd generally blow out of the water, then excuse away by saying they aren't dead yet. Course then they have issues down the road and blame it on the truck manufacturer.
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We have no problems with our SRW pulling our 5er. We use the truck for more than just towing, so didn't want the bulky DRW.
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Get the facts, forget personal opinions, you are legally responsible for having an adequate tow vehicle. Find the trailer you want so you know the weight you will be towing. Find the tow vehicle you need by reading the tow specs from the manufacturer and select a tow vehicle that will do the job.
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there is a sticky at the top of this forum section that walks you thru the weight calculations.
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there is a sticky at the top of this forum section that walks you thru the weight calculations.

thank you ,, ya saw it.,, what im looking for and thank you to all who have posted is real world feel for the tow while at or near those max numbers... have the truck already... its the trailer that will be next..

have rethought my purchase of the truck and at the time I could have gotten the DRW for same price.. Today I still would have taken the SRW.. for the type of driving, amount of towing and MPG loss... Not feeling sorry for the srw purchase,,.. just want to be thoughtfull of tow purchase to match capabilities..
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thank you ,, ya saw it.,, what im looking for and thank you to all who have posted is real world feel for the tow while at or near those max numbers... have the truck already... its the trailer that will be next..

have rethought my purchase of the truck and at the time I could have gotten the DRW for same price.. Today I still would have taken the SRW.. for the type of driving, amount of towing and MPG loss... Not feeling sorry for the srw purchase,,.. just want to be thoughtfull of tow purchase to match capabilities..
You will absolutely be fine. My 350 SRW has an 11.5k GVWR. Ready to tow it's at 8500 lbs. My pin is right around 3k depending on how I'm loaded and my rig can get close to 16k when the garage is full. So, I'm at the high side of all my ratings. I've put close to 10k miles on it in the last three years and never a moment where I've wished I'd had more truck. Remember, RV forumites are a pretty nervous bunch by nature so take all their cautionary advice with a grain of salt, use common sense, and have fun....
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