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Old 02-10-2016, 08:23 AM   #29
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If have two additional spring plies on my F250 and the ride loaded or unloaded is great. It all depends on the spring shop that does the installation. No adjustments required and my F250 is lower then F350 SRWs for loading.
My previous 1500 GM had the bounce and with a small 5th wheel the rear hit bottom often. Same trailer with Ford 1/4 ton Ranger was a dream to tow.
So 1/2 tons are set to ride like cars and need help to carry loads. Here everyone adds leafs on them to use them as service trucks. They have a great advantage over heavier trucks when equipped with gas engines.
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I added bags to help improve the ride on my 11 HO RAM dually. They did help with the horrible road conditions. They were not needed for the load.

15 RAM with factory rear air rides great loaded or unloaded.
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Old 02-10-2016, 09:35 AM   #31
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Its funny, guys will say upgrade your P rated tires to E rated tires but won't let you upgrade the suspension. I guess if you need E rated tires you still don't have enough truck. You should've got a 3/4 ton since they come with E rated tires.

Actually my 2016 Ram 1500 came with LT E rated tires
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There are bags that mount on brackets for trucks with leaf springs and bags that go inside the 1500 rear coils. The outside bracket bags tend to give more support but more bounce than the ones that go inside factory coils. If I was towing a TT with a 1500 I would have the bags inside the factory coils. Before my son put them in, a 6 bike mountain bike rack, gear and 4 people would sag the rear almost to the stops. He has the tow package. Next he will add the E tires and Bilstein shocks. But really all the mods should not be needed, but they are. He is not overloaded.
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Actually my 2016 Ram 1500 came with LT E rated tires
Why the heck would Ram put E rated tires on the 1500? 1500s have such low payloads that you would be overkill inflating them to 80psi.
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Why the heck would Ram put E rated tires on the 1500? 1500s have such low payloads that you would be overkill inflating them to 80psi.

I take it you don't like 1500's. I get it. Thanks for your help with my original thread question.
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I take it you don't like 1500's. I get it. Thanks for your help with my original thread question.
I have nothing against 1/2 tons. My point is most all 1/2 tons have a RAWR of 3850-4000lbs. E rated tires even at their lowest weight rating are good for 3195lbs each. P rated tires are 100% enough for the RAWR of 1/2 tons. If someone wants to put Es on their truck for a more solid ride then go for it. I did when I had my 2010 F150. But I was never able to fully take advantage of the 3195lb rating at 80PSI. I'm not sure why Ram would put them on when they can't be fully utilized.
What model Ram 1500 do you have that came with Es from the factory?
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That's awesome! I am betting the door label does NOT say 80psi for max load. PIC?
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Hey guys look, don't get air bags for any reason. If you want to own a truck make sure it's a 1 ton dually and sprung like a buck board. If you have a possible rear axle capacity of 8,000 lbs make darn sure you have at least that in springs, or more. Just wear a mouth piece so your teeth stay off the floor. But don't buy air bags or sleeves. Most all of the millions of people that have bought them are idiots and know nothing. Ram is an idiotic company for having air suspension on it's trucks. If they wanted good trucks they should of stayed with leaf springs and added more leafs so the ride would be more truck like. If your rear tires don't catch some air time when you go over railroad crossings while empty then you need much stiffer springs. But for heavens sake don't buy or like air bags.
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yes, I long for the good old days when we had leafs front and rear. Now we got these cowboy Cadillac trucks that make a 8 hour day of towing seem like nothing. I want a truck that will beat the crud out of me, keeps ya tough.
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yes, I long for the good old days when we had leafs front and rear. Now we got these cowboy Cadillac trucks that make a 8 hour day of towing seem like nothing. I want a truck that will beat the crud out of me, keeps ya tough.
At least I still have a straight front axle. You can really feel it going over tracks etc. I may put air bags on the front.

I remember a cowboy who worked our ranch back in the 60's had a Mid 60's Dodge 3/4 ton 2WD long bed. It was definitely a hard tail! I bet he'd have to put 4 tons in the bed to get it bottomed out. As a kid I hated riding in the bed of that truck. Bam Bam Bam!
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That's interesting. I wonder what Rams reasoning is.?That's the stock size tire they put on the 2500-3500 before 2013 IIRC. Guessing the had a contract for so many and needed a place for them since the 2013+ 2500-3500 use 18" mainly.
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