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01-25-2004, 05:11 AM
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Senior Member
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If the TruControl and the Breaksmart are the same, why the HUGE price difference??? Breaksmart - $350 and the TruControl - $427!!!!
I will be looking forward to reading Ken L report.
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2001 F350 CC PSD SRW 4X4
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01-25-2004, 11:22 AM
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Location: Windsor, Ontario Canada
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by Ken Lenger:
Update:
You can now order BrakeSmart controllers direct on-line from them. Price is about $350. Great service. They also have installation manuals on the website so that you can review the installation procedures before deciding to buy. I have my controller sitting on a shelf in my office waiting for the new ride to put it in. Will report back when finished and tested.
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So Ken, why not install that controller on your office chair and pull your desk around and let us know how well that controller works? Not sure I can wait for your truck to come in. So a preliminary report on towing a heavy desk would be nice as well.
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03 Dodge Quad Cab Dually Diesel pulling a 2004 Newmar Mountain Aire 34RDCK Dually
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01-25-2004, 07:40 PM
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Junior Member
Join Date: Apr 2003
Location: WI, USA
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Just finished installing the controller.
All went went well, however make sure you have atleast 3 large cans of brake fluid. Getting the air out of the brakes was not easy.
My original brake fluid was really dark (27000 miles total, 7000 towing); I am going to change it every year from now on.
Tom
Tom + Kathy
2003 Chevy Duramax 3500 LT CC LB 4WD.
2002 New Vision 3158Px3.
Schefenacker towing mirrors - Remote + Heated + Lights.
Reese 16K 4 way pivot with 2 way lock.
Prodigy :? Going to replace with BrakeSmart Controller.
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01-26-2004, 05:41 AM
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Junior Member
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Location: Elkhart In USA
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I have had the brakeSmart for about 3 years. We tow from popups to 43' fivers. There is nothing better. IMHO.
Very easy to install, As far as bleeding the lines, we just push on the brake peddle while someone tightens the tee. Always seemed to work better than at the calipers.
Dave T
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01-30-2004, 09:56 AM
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Texas Boomers Wagonmaster
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When I bought my 5ver last Sep the dealer installed a Draw Tite Activator II in my truck. I have towed with it on several occasions and it seems to work OK - no complaints but I am a newbie at pulling a trailer so have no point of reference. I haven't read anything about the Draw Tite here. Just wonder if it is a good choice. From wht I have been reading the BrakeSmart seems to be the creme de la creme, but that price tag seems pretty steep.
Don & Pat Allen - AKA Grump & Gram (at least to our 2 grandsons LOL)
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01-30-2004, 10:45 AM
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Location: Boerne, TX
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I have the Activator IIin my truck also. It was installed when I bought my first TT and I didn't know any better. I find it difficult to adjust and jerky at times. I will be upgrading before next season and will probably go with the Prodigy. I just haven't done it yet because I have been lazy and keep finding something different to spend the money on. The brakesmart really has mi intrigued, but I don't know about the cost.
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01-30-2004, 10:51 AM
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Don,
If you don't want to pop for the BrakeSmart, the Jordan Ultima 2020 is a good 2nd choice. It has a proportional output based on brake pedal position as opposed to the BrakeSmart's use of brake hydraulic pressure. A number of us use the Jordan (myself included) and find it much better than the time-based or inertial controllers.
Edit: I'm not knocking the BrakeSmart as I find it technically intriguing - especially if one were to convert the 5th wheel to electric over hydraulic disc brakes!! I'm just submitting the Jordan as perhaps a cost-effective alternative.
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01-30-2004, 12:58 PM
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Location: Point of Rocks, MD
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I noticed on the BrakeSmart web page that it will also coordinate trailer air suspensions and has inputs for Diesel engine sensing. Does anyone know how this works, what is available, and if it can be fitted to a truck & trailer I already have? It really looks interesting but th eprice demands that I look at all of it's capabilities.
Zeke
EE, Ham, 20 yr. Boy Scouter, (any WB Owls?), Divemaster, ARC CPR Instructor driving
2004 GMC 32500 SLT CC, LB, D/A SLT (Great White Whale), B&W Turnover Ball and 5th plug, towing customized 2003 HR Presidential 36SKT 5th.
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01-31-2004, 12:24 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: Ocala,Fl USA
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I ordered a BrakeSmart controller yesterday from Brakesmart.net. I requested next day service extra charge of course. However I recieved email stating that they had a glitch in their software that did not pick up the next day service fee. I will not be billed for the next day service. I hope that the controller is as good as their customer relations. Just great
Rich/Carole
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02-01-2004, 08:52 PM
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Junior Member
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Location: WI, USA
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Everyone complains about the price of the controller; however everyone pays for insurance about the same or more than the cost of the controller per year. I look at the controller as an insurance policy; anything that helps me stop faster or more controllable is a good thing.
Tom
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02-03-2004, 06:09 AM
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Texas Boomers Wagonmaster
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Tom makes a very valid point. Most of us are pulling a very expensive trailer with a very expensive tow vehicle. It would only stand to reason that we would want to make sure that we have the very best components to make a safe and controlled stop under any condition.
I am seriously considering ordering the BrakeSmart for that reason. The money doesn't sem so important as it did. Sure will be looking for Ken to give his opinion on how his new one performs.
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02-03-2004, 07:08 PM
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02-04-2004, 01:38 AM
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Junior Member
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Location: Windsor, Ontario Canada
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Ken, excellent photos. Looks like the installation if fairly straight forward. Soooooooo next weekend hitch that baby up and conduct a towing evaluation????
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03 Dodge Quad Cab Dually Diesel pulling a 2004 Newmar Mountain Aire 34RDCK Dually
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