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Old 11-14-2003, 06:37 PM   #1
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I posted in the General Discussion board, and I guess I should have posted the question here -- duh...

Am looking for a brake controller. After reading through several threads, I see that inertia type controllers appear to NOT be the way to go. So, it seems that it might boil down to the Jordan or the Brakesmart. Can anyone offer their opinons on either one, and help me in my decision?

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Old 11-14-2003, 06:37 PM   #2
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I posted in the General Discussion board, and I guess I should have posted the question here -- duh...

Am looking for a brake controller. After reading through several threads, I see that inertia type controllers appear to NOT be the way to go. So, it seems that it might boil down to the Jordan or the Brakesmart. Can anyone offer their opinons on either one, and help me in my decision?

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Old 11-14-2003, 06:41 PM   #3
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Both of the ones you have mentioned are great. I've been using the Prodogy and love it. I think you would be happy with any of these.
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Old 11-19-2003, 05:00 AM   #4
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I use the Jordan Ultima and have tried both. The Jordan is clearly a better controller based on my experience (years of towing). You wouldn't know it unless you compared them. Cheapest price I know of is www.bestbrakecontroller.com Installations instructions are there to. Good luck.
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Old 11-26-2003, 07:44 PM   #5
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To your question...

What is the principle to the BrakeSmart? I have been to the website but dont find any specific details.

How does it work?
What makes it work?

We all know the Jordan works on a cable attached to the brake pedal arm and the Prodigy on a bending bars capacitor principle, but the BrakeSmart? Anyone know?

Id like to see a brake controller become a more integral part of the vehicle braking system. Keeping the electric brakes on the trailer end is ok, but why not implement a pressure transducer attached directly to the master brake cylinder with an analog output (0-15 amps) adjustable from within the vehicle?

Im no engineer but it doesnt seem that complicated.

Anyone design engineers out there wanting a project?

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Old 11-27-2003, 12:01 AM   #6
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><font size="-1">quote:</font><HR>Originally posted by wittmeba:
why not implement a pressure transducer attached directly to the master brake cylinder with an analog output (0-15 amps) adjustable from within the vehicle?<HR></BLOCKQUOTE>
Bruce:

From what I understand, What you describe is how the brakesmart controller works.

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Russell,

Thanks. I went back to their site and did see something about connecting to a 'T' on the master brake cylinder. Not much else, however.

It makes sense to me and may be a big improvement over the Jordan and Prodigy.

I talked to a Ford engineer a little over a year ago regarding brake controllers and I wouldnt be surprised if it shows up as another 'Towing Option' in the near future.

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Old 11-27-2003, 05:07 PM   #8
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I think that this brake controller looks interesting and I will look into it if I upgrade my truck. I really like the Jordan, but I think a hydraulic sensor would make for a simplier and cleaner installation. Their website makes no mention of the price of the controller.

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I am not too crazt about putting a tee into the brake system. I realize that the controller uses a minimal amount of fluid but I still wouldn't want to do it. The ABS may or may not be affected by this.
I have both the Prodigy and the Jordan and love the Jordan. Tha cable knows how much You are applying the brakes and does the same to the trailer.

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What goes around, comes around.

I still have one of the old hydraulic brake controlers that we used to use. They work better than any electronic that I have ever seen, however all of the information that I can find says that they will screw up the anti-lock brake systems.

I would really like to have one of those old mechanical controllers installed. The harder you push the brake pedal, the more current to the trailer brakes.

I have one of the older Jordan controllers and it works ok, but it simply ramps up the voltage based on time and has nothing to do with how quick you want to stop.

Anything that is truly proportional is best.

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I am installing a brakesmart right now on my truck. Wish I would of done it the first time; I am on my third controller. This controller is very cool and it has modules to read egt and boost. Plus you can control your air suspension and it will control electric hydraulic brakes. If I designed a controller I would have used this approach, however I never would have had the funds to make something so elegant. I truly think the Light truck companies will use this unit as a spring board to offer truly integrated braking run off the main truck computer. I have read great reviews about the unit and it is the only unit to offer real time synchronized braking of both vehicles. I could care less about installing the transducer on the Master cylinder. It uses no real oil volume to operate and it is compatible with ABS.

The kit is very complete and easy to install, since it has no cable attachments it can be mounted inside your dash to look like part of your truck. I will have the install complete this Sunday and will test it out the first time the weather is above the mid 40's probably in February.

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Update:

You can now order BrakeSmart controllers direct on-line from them. Price is about $350. Great service. They also have installation manuals on the website so that you can review the installation procedures before deciding to buy. I have my controller sitting on a shelf in my office waiting for the new ride to put it in. Will report back when finished and tested.

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Old 01-24-2004, 12:17 PM   #13
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Is there a difference between the Brakesmart contoller and the Trucontrol? I have seen an ad for the Trucontrol in the February 2004 Trailer Life page #53. Looks like the same box to me, I am going to check on price differences. looks like a great concept, anyone actually towing with one?

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The TruControl and Brakesmart are the same. It appears that Brakesmart makes both. The TrueControl has Hensley's name on it and on the documentation but its clearly the same. The Brakesmart is available in several colors to match your truck. The Hensley TrueControl is only available in "god awful orange". The TruControl is slightly more expensive. (Well Duh)
I got the TrueControl (I didn't know about the Brakesmart) for Christmas and have it installed but haven't got to tow with it yet.
It was a piece of cake to install. As far as problems with the antilock stuff, the owners manual in the '01 Chevy states that its okay to tap into the brake line with certain restrictions. I used one of the old type hydraulic brake controllers on my '99 Chevy without any problems.

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