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Old 09-29-2013, 12:59 PM   #1
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California???

Anyone know if I drove into California with a pre DEF diesel engine, would I be fined?
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Old 09-29-2013, 01:11 PM   #2
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Not sure of your question. I've driven in CA. the last 4 years, with my 99 DP and never seen any problem with getting fuel or any reference to upgrades being required.

Now if your moving to CA and trying to register an older diesel , that may be a problem.
Only thing that you really have to watch is the all vehicles towing speed limit. They really enforce that limit.

Commercial Vehicle's may also have different rules, any transport truck entering CA. may be required to be DEF emissions compliant.
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You will not be fined. There are about a bazillion of them here.
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Old 09-29-2013, 03:29 PM   #4
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I knew there were restrictions being implemented by CARB regarding commercial vehicle's. My concern is if these restriction have trickled down to RV's and diesel powered pickup trucks. After reading Mr. Hoagland's response this doesn't seem to be a issue. Thanks gentlemen.
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And CARB rules/laws are applied to vehicles registered in California...not visitors. Unless of course you have a commercial licensed vehicle...
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If the vehicle was manufactured without DEF then it met the then current emissions standards. Diesel standards have been non-existent until recently which is why the manufacturers started to use DEF to reduce emissions and it works with a 99% reduction in particulates - soot. Anywhere you go in the USA the only fuel sold is ULSD and that is harder on the pre-DEF engines but you can add lubricity agents to the fuel tank to maximize injector life.
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If the vehicle was manufactured without DEF then it met the then current emissions standards. Diesel standards have been non-existent until recently which is why the manufacturers started to use DEF to reduce emissions and it works with a 99% reduction in particulates - soot. Anywhere you go in the USA the only fuel sold is ULSD and that is harder on the pre-DEF engines but you can add lubricity agents to the fuel tank to maximize injector life.
As I remember they started having to add emission controls to diesel MH's around 2004 so it's not real recently. Plus the ULSD fuel has lubricity additives added at the refinery so extra isn't needed, but doesn't hurt (other than your wallet) if you do.
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So why don't you call and ask????
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I suppose if everyone used the phone there would be no need for this forum, but thanks for the tip.
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