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Old 12-31-2013, 10:21 AM   #29
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Makes me think of childhood, Dad had a 1962 Chevrolet Impala wagon, 283, the old 2 speed auto (torque flight I think), RV place welded on a "frame hitch" and off we went, Mom, Dad, 5 kids, 12 foot boat on roof, outboard in back of wagon, 21 foot Bee-Line trailer I'm guessing to be 3500 lbs, on the road in mountains of up state NY. Now that was overloaded, but oddly enough never had a problem.....did go up some climbs slowly though
Cool post! Yeah, many memories.

I towed overloaded from the 60s until the mid 80s in that manner. And never had a problem.
But the first time I towed with the right TV and trailer, the experience was soooo cool, and I regretted ohhh sooo many miles without the right stuff.
Just sayin....
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I had 2 Dodge Ram 1500 trucks I used to pull travel trailer with, both with the 5.7 Hemi. If I remember correctly they were 2003 and 2005, or there abouts. First was 1500 2 wheel drive with towing package, come to find out did not have posi-traction rear and was a higher gear ratio than should have been to tow, in my opinion. Guess I didn't ask dealer enough questions, I ASSUMED towing package would have that, but no just hitch, larger alt, oil cooler and larger radiator. Second I got was 4x4 that had posi-traction and lower rear (3.55 vs 3.92 or there abouts) that made the biggest difference. Felt like the first truck struggled to pull my 27FKS Sunnybrook, second truck with lower rear felt like it could tow anything. Sunny was about 6800 dry and probably 7400 or so road ready, the later truck pulled it fine, that truck also had a tow/haul mode on trans too. It was a great truck. You are probably close to maxing out, but run your number and see. Makes me think of childhood, Dad had a 1962 Chevrolet Impala wagon, 283, the old 2 speed auto (torque flight I think), RV place welded on a "frame hitch" and off we went, Mom, Dad, 5 kids, 12 foot boat on roof, outboard in back of wagon, 21 foot Bee-Line trailer I'm guessing to be 3500 lbs, on the road in mountains of up state NY. Now that was overloaded, but oddly enough never had a problem.....did go up some climbs slowly though
Your right I'm pulling about 9500 lb. and I believe the truck is rated for 10500 lb. but she pulls great I put it in tow haul mode and up and down the hill and mountains I go. The rpm has never gone over 3700 rpm and I have never fallen below 55 mph. I can't run with a diesel but then again I not in a hurry.
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I had 2 Dodge Ram 1500 trucks I used to pull travel trailer with, both with the 5.7 Hemi. If I remember correctly they were 2003 and 2005, or there abouts. First was 1500 2 wheel drive with towing package, come to find out did not have posi-traction rear and was a higher gear ratio than should have been to tow, in my opinion. Guess I didn't ask dealer enough questions, I ASSUMED towing package would have that, but no just hitch, larger alt, oil cooler and larger radiator. Second I got was 4x4 that had posi-traction and lower rear (3.55 vs 3.92 or there abouts) that made the biggest difference. Felt like the first truck struggled to pull my 27FKS Sunnybrook, second truck with lower rear felt like it could tow anything.

Sunny was about 6800 dry and probably 7400 or so road ready, the later truck pulled it fine, that truck also had a tow/haul mode on trans too.

It was a great truck. You are probably close to maxing out, but run your number and see.

Makes me think of childhood, Dad had a 1962 Chevrolet Impala wagon, 283, the old 2 speed auto (torque flight I think), RV place welded on a "frame hitch" and off we went, Mom, Dad, 5 kids, 12 foot boat on roof, outboard in back of wagon, 21 foot Bee-Line trailer I'm guessing to be 3500 lbs, on the road in mountains of up state NY. Now that was overloaded, but oddly enough never had a problem.....did go up some climbs slowly though
That Impala had a PowerGlide (aka powerslide) tranny....Torque Flite was a 3speed tranny in Chrysler products.
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Lori, the OP has decided against the truck/trailer in this thread.

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I would think it'd be nicer if the OP would come back and tell us what the idea was. Less thread clutter.
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Well all I can say is that I have pulled a livestock trailer over 200 thousands miles and know a little bet about truck performance and I'm not disappointed with this ford I have had really bad luck with a dodge truck and a little better experience with a chev. Since you are not in my truck don't tell me how bad it is. You like your truck and that is good and I like my truck have a good day.
Totally agree with you truck ability.
Some think we don't know what we have experienced,
It's the driver that counts and from some comments on here there are many that can't drive.
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That Impala had a PowerGlide (aka powerslide) tranny....Torque Flite was a 3speed tranny in Chrysler products.
You are absolutely right, couldn't remember when I was typing. I remember the rpm run up to get on highway and then drop at shift point and no power there at all!
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You are absolutely right, couldn't remember when I was typing. I remember the rpm run up to get on highway and then drop at shift point and no power there at all!
That is exactly how I have driven for the past 43 years. Any more is a waste.
Had a 6 cylinder when everyone needed V8, 4 cylinders when V6 were in style. Had 225 hp GM Diesel towing 14K.
That's why we use gears. A 500hp truck on the highway is capable of towing 80,000lbs. How much more do we want out of 300 hp.
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You are absolutely right, couldn't remember when I was typing. I remember the rpm run up to get on highway and then drop at shift point and no power there at all!
I recall some of the family cars, Stovebolt Six, Powerslide tranny...LOL

My two cylinder BMW bike has more HP.

The Torque Flites with the push button selectors were sort of cool though!

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That is exactly how I have driven for the past 43 years. Any more is a waste.
Had a 6 cylinder when everyone needed V8, 4 cylinders when V6 were in style. Had 225 hp GM Diesel towing 14K.
That's why we use gears. A 500hp truck on the highway is capable of towing 80,000lbs. How much more do we want out of 300 hp.
COE International Transtar, lowboy trailer, CAT D-7 was okay pulling. But I'd prefer an F-250 (6.2L gas -385bhp) with a 26' TT now.

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Joe N. - dude, that 5.4 litre engine was a real dog. That F-150 could not get out of it's own way compared to the newer engines.

This next statement I think is hard to debate. The 5.4 litre engine in the F-150 made more noise than acceleration. I test drove a new 2006 F-150 when I floored it I thought what is all that engine noise because the speedometer is not going up.
Oh it downshifted, engine rev'ed, made a lot of noise, zero acceleration.

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Durn guys. What do you do with all that power.? My 5.4 will burn the tires to the ground, Even when hooked to the TT. I can't leave from a stop sign with out smoking the tires, and will pin your head to the head rest when you drop the hammer at 60 mph. Don't know what I'd do with much more power. However IF I ever get a new truck. Not gonna settle for a 5.0. I would get the big V8. Well bigger V8, They don't really make big V8s any more.
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We're considering the following set up but I want to get your opinions on whether these two will be happy with each other.

2014 Keystone Outback 316RL - 7,640 lbs.

Used Dodge Ram 1500 SLT Quad Cab - 5.7L V8 Hemi Magnum with tow package


We'll be using a weight distribution hitch and a brake controller.

According to the specs, the Ram 4x2 will pull 10,350 lbs. I haven't considered anything else regarding tongue, etc.

Thanks for your input.
I have a 2005 Ram 1500 setup just as you are quoting. I move my enclosed coach trailer around without the jeep in it. It does fine, BUT I sure would not want to use it full time for that load.

Then there is the issue of downhills......
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Durn guys. What do you do with all that power.? My 5.4 will burn the tires to the ground, Even when hooked to the TT. I can't leave from a stop sign with out smoking the tires, and will pin your head to the head rest when you drop the hammer at 60 mph. Don't know what I'd do with much more power. However IF I ever get a new truck. Not gonna settle for a 5.0. I would get the big V8. Well bigger V8, They don't really make big V8s any more.
"I can't leave from a stop sign with out smoking the tires, and will pin your head to the head rest when you drop the hammer at 60 mph"

Right! If you are talking about while you are towing (towing is the conversation here); Your nose is going to grow... Pinocchio!

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