Go Back   iRV2 Forums > TRAVEL TRAILER, 5th WHEEL & TRUCK CAMPER FORUMS > Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion
Click Here to Login
Join iRV2 Today

Mission Statement: Supporting thoughtful exchange of knowledge, values and experience among RV enthusiasts.
  This discussion is proudly sponsored by:
Please support our sponsors and let them know you heard about their products on iRV2
Thread Tools Search this Thread Display Modes
Old 08-05-2016, 05:37 PM   #15
Senior Member
Join Date: Nov 2015
Posts: 5,228
Open the drivers door.........

Yellow sticker lists the payload (cargo capacity)
What is your trucks?

That is the amount of weight that can be carried by your truck,,,,,,,,,,,,,,
You, Fuel, All Passengers/Pets, stuff in cab (in door pockets, console, floor, under seats, backpacks etc+), stuff in bed of truck, trailer hitch AND the tongue weight of trailer

Tongue weight 15% of total weight of trailer loaded 'camp ready' (packed with food, linen, pot/pans, dishes, towels, soap, condiments etc----everything that would be in it when going camping)

ADD up ALL of those weights and subtract from that yellow sticker payload number

Now that you have done the math.....

Go shopping for a trailer that will be a better towing fit vs the one you fell in love with due to bells/whistles (it's too heavy)

2 kinds of campers.......
Those that tow within trucks ratings
Those that justify why not to use trucks ratings

Simple math.

Old-Biscuit is online now   Reply With Quote
Join the #1 RV Forum Today - It's Totally Free!

iRV2.com RV Community - Are you about to start a new improvement on your RV or need some help with some maintenance? Do you need advice on what products to buy? Or maybe you can give others some advice? No matter where you fit in you'll find that iRV2 is a great community to join. Best of all it's totally FREE!

You are currently viewing our boards as a guest so you have limited access to our community. Please take the time to register and you will gain a lot of great new features including; the ability to participate in discussions, network with other RV owners, see fewer ads, upload photographs, create an RV blog, send private messages and so much, much more!

Old 08-05-2016, 06:29 PM   #16
Senior Member
MtnTrek's Avatar
Join Date: Jul 2015
Location: Currently; SW Cali. Sunny & warm!
Posts: 1,145
Sharing the highways, Personal responsibility

Originally Posted by raineman View Post
That is interesting that this person made the comments in private. My guess is that the person who sent this did not want be the guy that says "forget the math and just go for it" in front of everyone. There are always a handful of folks that ignore specifications and weight and instead go with the idea that the professionals have no idea what they are talking about. They also assume that since "it pulled fine" they are safe and have proven everyone wrong. The truth is that anyone that pulls a trailer with that mentality is unsafe, putting themselves and those around them at risk. They also seem to assume they will never be in a crisis situation where the specifications are really going to matter. Further, if they ever get into an accident and hurt someone, other than their own family, a lawyer will be able to play the overloaded flag. Lastly, why in heck would anyone want to put that kind of stress on a vehicle not designed to pull the load? It will decrease the life of the tow vehicle.

What is most perplexing to me is that these folks feel that they should share their poor decision making skills by advising others to overload and make the same unsafe mistakes. Some going out of their way to do so.
Well stated Sir / Maam.

DRV Suites ES-38RSSA #9679
J & J
GM Denali, 3500HD-Max, 4x CC, 8' DRW,
MtnTrek is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2016, 07:51 PM   #17
SouthpawHD's Avatar
Join Date: Oct 2015
Posts: 77
Head over to the Ford Eco Boost website, those guys pull all sorts of crazy weights!!! And ironically being overloaded is not part of their discussions.

Good for the OP to listening to the reasonable posts around here. You are well on your way to a successful venture. Good luck!
Palomino SolAire 307QBDSK
2016 Chevy Silverado 2500HD, 6.0L, CC, 4.10
SouthpawHD is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2016, 08:24 PM   #18
Senior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 168
My brother in law has a f150 with ecoboost and pulls a 34 ft puma at 7000 lbs and says it pulls just fine power wise with no sway but he complains how bouncy it is and wants to add a helper spring. Other than that he loves camping with his new camper. My camper is 34 ft 6500 lbs and I pull with a Chevy z71 with no problems also but we take our time with them when we travel. If I would have found this website before I bought I probably would have stayed around 28 ft and under 6000 lbs. we put a deposite on our camper before we bought ours and they said it was just to hold it and they even give our check back to us later. Maybe y'all can use the deposite on another trail or there.
lcboy is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-05-2016, 08:37 PM   #19
Senior Member
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Lowell, Arkansas
Posts: 5,052
Helper springs will not stop a TT from bouncing, nor any other vehicle. TT's need shocks to control bounce. The TT industry has cheated all TT owners because they have convinced the public that TT's do not need shocks because nobody is riding the the TT when it is being pulled. And it saves them a lot of $$$$.

TeJay Auto Instructor/4-yrs USAF/ Liz: RN/ WBGO 2014 Vista 30T/ F-53/CHF/5-Star/Koni * Bella & Izzy * Golden /Cocker mix/ Louie The Cat* All Retired
TeJay is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 06:25 AM   #20
Junior Member
Join Date: Jul 2016
Posts: 19
This is true. ^^^^^. Trailers should definitely have shocks
smbullet is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 07:16 AM   #21
Moderator Emeritus
SmokeyWren's Avatar

Join Date: Jun 2011
Location: Midland County, Texas
Posts: 3,577
My small TT, like most others, did not have shocks from the factory. But I added them after I got it home. I don't notice that it tows any better, but things in the kitchen stay where I put them much better. Of course, with my ProPride hitch, I can't expect it to tow any better just because of adding shocks.
Grumpy ole man with over 50 years towing experience. Now my heaviest trailer is a 7,000-pound enclosed cargo trailer, RV is a 5,600 pound Skyline Nomad Joey 196S, and my tow vehicle is a 2012 F-150 3.5L EcoBoost SuperCrew.
SmokeyWren is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 08:52 AM   #22
Senior Member
Scottybdivin's Avatar

Newmar Owners Club
Join Date: Jun 2012
Location: Spicewood Texas (West of Austin)
Posts: 3,830
Not sure what package you have, but my 2014 CC 4x4 (6.5' bed) has a Max Tow package 11,100 tow rating, and a 1840 payload. There was a Heavy Duty Payload package in 2014 that had a 2310 payload, in the same model as mine. While I don't agree with everything the PM said, i do agree that you should do the numbers yourself, based on the actual weight and specs of your truck. Use the GVWR of your prospective trailer as a basis.
Scotty and Kristen, Airedales Dagny and Wyatt
2007 Newmar Mountain Aire 4528, 450 HP ISM, Allison 4000, 8 Trojan T-105's
2014 F150 4x4 Crew Cab Platinum 157" WB
Roadmaster Blackhawk 2, RVI2 Brake System
Scottybdivin is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 12:18 PM   #23
Senior Member
Highway 4x4's Avatar
Outdoors RV Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2014
Location: La Verne, Calif
Posts: 2,238
My truck, all loaded up weighs about 9000. My TT all loaded up weighs about 8000. I like it that the truck weighs more than what it is towing. Not a requirement, but I like it. When something bad happens in front of me I will have a better chance to avoid becoming part of the pile.
2014 Wind River 250RDSW
2014 Ram 2500 Diesel Laramie 4x4, Snugtop shell,
One big spoiled Bernese Mtn Dog
Highway 4x4 is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 01:02 PM   #24
Junior Member
Join Date: Aug 2016
Posts: 6
We got our deposit back. Thank you for the guidance. Now we'll shop smart. The advice was priceless. God Bless.
Kenandlinda is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 01:14 PM   #25
Senior Member
gpscotty's Avatar
Winnebago Owners Club
Vintage RV Owners Club
Join Date: Jan 2011
Location: Texas 76036
Posts: 130
Can you

I have a 2013 F150 with the ecoboost 3.5 engine and the 3:73 rear end and the trailer tow package. We pull a 1984 Avion p30 vintage trailer, loaded weight is 8000 lbs, torque weight 800 lbs, equal i zer hitch. Tow rating of 11000. The trailer length is 30 ft. I am pushing max load for truck load and axle limit. the truck pulls the load find and handles well. On trips from the Texas to the N/W corner of Montana the truck has done great. The length & weight of the trailer you want I would not recommend, the tail is going to be able to wag the dog. A bigger truck or a smaller trailer, you want to be safe and enjoy the trip. You folks have to make the choice? gps
gpscotty is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 01:31 PM   #26
Ranster's Avatar
Join Date: Aug 2015
Location: Menifee, CA
Posts: 65
Originally Posted by Kenandlinda View Post
We got our deposit back. Thank you for the guidance. Now we'll shop smart. The advice was priceless. God Bless.
Glad to hear!

Now, take your time, find the "right" trailer and ENJOY!
2003 Shamrock 21 ft. w/slide
2001 Toyota Tundra SR5 Extended Cab 4.7L
Ranster is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 04:28 PM   #27
Moderator Emeritus
TXiceman's Avatar

Vintage RV Owners Club
Texas Boomers Club
Oklahoma Boomers Club
Ford Super Duty Owner
Join Date: Aug 2000
Location: Full Time, TX Home Base
Posts: 17,169
Blog Entries: 21
Glad you are learning about safe towing. The Escapees magazine has an excellent article on listening to people that do not have a clue and saying "My truck tows the trailer just Fine". It explains all of the terms and the proper approach to towing.

Look at the towing info here on the Smart Weight program from Escapees.

Amateur Radio Operator (KE5DFR)|Full-Time! - 2012 6.7L Ford Crew Cab Dually -2013 HitchHiker Champagne 38RLRSB - Travel with one Standard Schnauzer and one small Timneh African Gray Parrot
TXiceman is offline   Reply With Quote
Old 08-06-2016, 05:13 PM   #28
Senior Member
Join Date: Apr 2016
Posts: 134
I have a 2011 F150 3.5, 11300 lbs GTW, 2280 lbs payload. When I tow my carhauler at max GW (10,000 lbs) I have plenty of Margin. At max GTW tongue weight is 1200 lbs. WDH is 56 lbs ajd my weight is 195 lbs. At these weights I have 829 lbs of payload margin for other things. As another contributor stated run your own numbers and stay within the capacity limits.

Cminnie is offline   Reply With Quote

Currently Active Users Viewing This Thread: 1 (0 members and 1 guests)
Thread Tools Search this Thread
Search this Thread:

Advanced Search
Display Modes

Posting Rules
You may not post new threads
You may not post replies
You may not post attachments
You may not edit your posts

BB code is On
Smilies are On
[IMG] code is On
HTML code is Off
Trackbacks are Off
Pingbacks are Off
Refbacks are Off

Similar Threads
Thread Thread Starter Forum Replies Last Post
Can we go yet, Can we go yet, Can we go yet, Can we go yet, Can we go yet mothgrey Class A Motorhome Discussions 9 11-18-2013 04:51 PM
What kind of trailer can our Suburban pull? Shore2Shore Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion 8 11-03-2011 12:49 PM
To Pull or Not to Pull Frac999 Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion 32 08-11-2010 06:19 PM
gvwr, gvwr, ? on towing, overloadiing jwine Class A Motorhome Discussions 8 12-09-2008 02:23 AM
Can our Toyota Tundra pull our trailer? Pandora Trailer Towing and Tow Vehicles Discussion 12 08-18-2007 09:51 AM

» Featured Campgrounds

Reviews provided by

Copyright 2002- Social Knowledge, LLC All Rights Reserved.

All times are GMT -6. The time now is 01:47 PM.

Powered by vBulletin® Version 3.8.8 Beta 1
Copyright ©2000 - 2018, vBulletin Solutions, Inc.