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09-26-2013, 09:15 AM
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I believe Ram's marketing strategy, as I mentioned on another thread, is to offer a towing rating close to the 5.7L Hemi while offering equivalent or better fuel mileage than the 25 MPG EPA highway rating of the 3.6L Pentastar V6. Ram's marketing philosophy if that if you want to tow heavy, they offer Cummins-powered 2500 and 3500 trucks for that purpose.
Rusty
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09-26-2013, 09:47 AM
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What kind of prices are they showing?
Seems to me the price of pickups is WAY too high. Especially for a retired guy.
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09-26-2013, 04:34 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyWren
Well, maybe not a new Ford, but back in the day Ford had a 5.7L engine (350 cc). L'il Bro had a '92 F-150 with 5.7L engine. Gas hog, but reliable. Just nit-picking...
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It is actually a 5.8L 351. Chevy had the 5.7L 350.
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09-26-2013, 04:38 PM
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OF all the diesel announcements that have me excited the Cummins/Titan should be interesting to watch.
UD
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09-26-2013, 08:55 PM
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Hey, Smokey--
Back in the day they hadn't invented litres in the US--it was all cubic inches. And I thought the engines that size were 351s in the 150s and 350s in work trucks. Same engine, but different designations depending on what chassis they were in? Not nit-picking, just wondering if I was dreaming...
Joe
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09-26-2013, 09:07 PM
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Hey they missed the Tundra with a 5.7L-V8.
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09-26-2013, 09:11 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by SmokeyWren
Well, maybe not a new Ford, but back in the day Ford had a 5.7L engine (350 cc). L'il Bro had a '92 F-150 with 5.7L engine. Gas hog, but reliable. Just nit-picking...
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5.8L and it was 351ci.
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09-27-2013, 09:30 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by wingnut60
Hey, Smokey--
Back in the day they hadn't invented litres in the US--it was all cubic inches. And I thought the engines that size were 351s in the 150s and 350s in work trucks. Same engine, but different designations depending on what chassis they were in? Not nit-picking, just wondering if I was dreaming...
Joe
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350CI was a GM engine. Ford makes a F350 chassis though.
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09-27-2013, 09:48 AM
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If you REALLY want to confuse yourself, the Windsor block 351 Ford had a 4.000" bore and a 3.500" stroke. Ford also built an FE-series engine that had the same 4.000" bore and 3.500" stroke, but they called it a 352. Go figure.....
Rusty
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09-27-2013, 09:50 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Uncle Dave
OF all the diesel announcements that have me excited the Cummins/Titan should be interesting to watch.
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Unless they rebuild the Titan into something stronger then the Cummins is a waste of time. The Cummins won't deliver the mpg's that the VM will, that's why Ram went with the VM. Of course it's an in house motor too, so that helps. But I read an article from a Ram spokesman and his main comment was that the Cummins didn't take the Ram 1500 in the direction they were headed.
I still don't see the appeal of a Titan/Cummins combo. The Titan is the worst selling full size truck on the market.
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09-27-2013, 12:25 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Cumminsfan
Unless they rebuild the Titan into something stronger then the Cummins is a waste of time. The Cummins won't deliver the mpg's that the VM will, that's why Ram went with the VM. Of course it's an in house motor too, so that helps. But I read an article from a Ram spokesman and his main comment was that the Cummins didn't take the Ram 1500 in the direction they were headed.
I still don't see the appeal of a Titan/Cummins combo. The Titan is the worst selling full size truck on the market.
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When the Titan debuted it brought many many firsts to the market and was the clear winner in 04 outpulling, out-featuring, and out comforting the domestics
Its hard to get trucks today "optioned" as well as the titan was in 04.
It took a long time for the domestics to catch it's feature set and equal its performance.
Titan suffers from simply being old now.
The cummins will outperform the VM, and...its a cummins.
Uncle Dave
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09-28-2013, 08:11 PM
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Rusty,
The FE series was what I was thinking about, not the Windsors. FE was the Y-block design and seem to remember that it had 1 cu in difference in terminology depending on if it was in a truck or a car??
Getting too old to accurately remember what I worked on as a teenager...
Joe
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09-28-2013, 09:48 PM
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The FE displacements were 332, 352, 361 (truck engine), 390, 406, 410 (Mercury engine), 427 and 428 cubic inches. The FE was a deep skirt block like the smaller Y-block 239, 256 (Mercury engine), 272, 292 and 312 cubic inch engines which was the engine with the Y-8 (Y-block) fender emblems.
Rusty
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