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02-09-2011, 12:03 AM
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I see the new pickups listed with GVWR in excess of 26,000lb.
In California, and some other states, a pickup truck without a camper or shell on it has to be registered as a commercial vehicle.
The rules for a commercial drivers licence ,(CDL) say it is required for any commercial vehicle in excess of a GVWR of 26,000 lb, (class 6).
Are pick ups exempt from the federal rules?
or are they considered an RV if hooked up to a trailer/5th wheel?
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02-09-2011, 04:14 AM
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Actually, Federal CDL rules apply to vehicles "engaged in intrastate or interstate commerce". Just because certain states may require commercial truck registration doesn't necessarily mean that a CDL is required if the vehicle is used in personal, non-commercial activity (i.e., an RV). Your state laws will govern here.
For example, Texas doesn't require non-commercial vehicles to be registered as commercial based on weight, but it does require a non-commercial Class A driver license for GCWR > 26,001 and towed loads > 10,000 or a non-commercial Class B for GCWR > 26,001 and towed loads of 10,000 or less. For GCWRs of 26,000 or less, a standard non-commercial Class C will suffice regardless of towed load. All this, of course, is based on the premise that the vehicle is not being used for commercial activity - if it is, and the activity is not exempted, a CDL is required.
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02-09-2011, 04:31 AM
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No state requires a CDL for a privately operated vehicle and states that have a requirement like you cited also have a section that exempts RVs used noncommercially.
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02-09-2011, 06:40 AM
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There are no pickups out here that have 26000 GVWR.
I think the new '11 3500 DRW GM has a 13000 GVWR along with the F450 at 13050 GVWR.
Are you thinking about a trucks GCWR (trucks GVWR + trailers GVWR = GCW ??
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02-09-2011, 10:33 PM
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CA does require a special non-cdl license for some configurations of truck/trailer RV's. Only the CHP or license bureau has all the correct information.
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02-09-2011, 11:08 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ray,IN
CA does require a special non-cdl license for some configurations of truck/trailer RV's. Only the CHP or license bureau has all the correct information.
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As much as I hate the Federal gubbamint, it would be nice if they would step into this mess. Hard to find reliable info. about a lot of states. State DMV websites often fail to clearly address the RV issue. FWIW, in New York you need an "R" (for RV) endorsement to your class D license to operate a MH over 26K lbs.
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02-09-2011, 11:17 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by JIMNLIN
There are no pickups out here that have 26000 GVWR.
I think the new '11 3500 DRW GM has a 13000 GVWR along with the F450 at 13050 GVWR.
Are you thinking about a trucks GCWR (trucks GVWR + trailers GVWR = GCW ??
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Yes I was thinking of gcwr. http://www.chevrolet.com/assets/pdf/...-rev051310.pdf
shows the Diesel Chevy as being 29,200 lb GCWR So in some states you would need a special licence to drive it then.
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02-10-2011, 09:40 PM
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Danny, all states have reciprocal agreements for travelers, meaning your state license is good in every other state, as long as you are not planning to live/work there for an extended period.
Traffic laws and road rules are not reciprocal.
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03-03-2011, 08:34 AM
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Texas does not require a CDL for a private operated RV. View the offical Texas State attached form to see the exemptions.
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03-03-2011, 05:46 PM
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I think what he meant was GCVW of the pick-up trucks. Some of the new 2011, pick-up trucks are now capable of a GCVW of 30,000 LBS. The truck has a GVWR of 12,200 and a tow rating of 22,300 with a base weight of 7,181 LBS. This is an automactic with 4:10 gears and a Cummins 6.7L engine.
Herte is the Link to the Dodge Bodybuilders.Com page. http://www.dodge.com/bodybuilder/201...ammlup3500.pdf
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03-04-2011, 11:03 AM
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The key word is "commercial". If you do not receive any compensation for driving your truck a CDL is not required. Some states have requirements for a RV endorsement, or upgraded license, but these are all non-CDL licensing requirements- unless you drive it for financial gain.
There is a downside to possessing a CDL, ask anyone who must have one.
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