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Old 06-21-2016, 05:19 PM   #43
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I then looked at the Ram trucks and the Cummins engine and immediately liked what Cummins engine look like. Being an engineer I like the simplicity of a straight six with less moving parts with the low torque band the Cummins has. The Cummins engine has the best engine braking of all three diesel engines in the pick-up truck market. T
I drove the Ford. It'd rev'd more, felt more powerful. It looked really complicated in V8 form under the hood, so I bought the I-6 Cummins for the same reason as you did - less moving parts....
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:25 PM   #44
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To the OP. Don't be concerned about brand. Just look for the one with the Cummins in it.��. Also I just read where GM reduced the warranty by 40,000 miles. I guess they just don't have faith in what they build.
Chevy, GMC Powertrain Warranties Get 40,000 Miles Shorter – News – Car and Driver | Car and Driver Blog
The diesel engine is still 100K as normal. But to be fair fiat has dropped their warranty too. 2016 Ram 3500 Heavy Duty Trucks - Durability and Warranty

Everyone is on the same playing field.
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Old 06-21-2016, 05:27 PM   #45
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I drove the Ford. It'd rev'd more, felt more powerful. It looked really complicated in V8 form under the hood, so I bought the I-6 Cummins for the same reason as you did - less moving parts....

If I were looking at a Ford I would wait for the 2017 model. Those trucks are going to be amazing.
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The diesel engine is still 100K as normal. But to be fair fiat has dropped their warranty too. 2016 Ram 3500 Heavy Duty Trucks - Durability and Warranty

Everyone is on the same playing field.
Are you sure?? The article says it has a 60,000 mi power train warranty. I always considered the engine as part of the power train. Just asking
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They article won't open on my phone but I'm guessing the 60k warranty is for the gas engine.
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Are you sure?? The article says it has a 60,000 mi power train warranty. I always considered the engine as part of the power train. Just asking
Yes, 2016 Silverado 3500HD Trims: High Country, LT, WT | Chevrolet

Ford, GM, and ram have the same warranty. The reason you will see on fiats ads that they have an "unsurpassed warranty". If they had the best it would be all over the place.


Gas engines are only covered up to 60K. Right now the best warranty I have seen for engine (maybe powertrain too) is the F650 and F750. 5 year 250K warranty. I have not seen that in medium duty. Usually just 2 years unlimited warranty. But I am pretty sure not many here are looking for a F650 or F760 to pull their 5th wheel. FYI that is an all Ford powertrain. Ford engine and Ford transmission.
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The diesel engine is still 100K as normal. But to be fair fiat has dropped their warranty too. 2016 Ram 3500 Heavy Duty Trucks - Durability and Warranty

Everyone is on the same playing field.
Per your site and I quote " We build Ram trucks to last. That's why we have the confidence to back our diesel-powered trucks with a 5-Year/100,000-Mile Diesel Powertrain Limited Warranty+ and our gas-powered trucks with a 5-Year/60,000-Mile Powertrain Limited Warranty" end quote.

So to me the Ram (FCA) diesel trucks have the 100,000 mile powertrain warranty like they have had for some time.
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Do some more research, Ram is too.
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Do some more research, Ram is too.
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Got a friend that has been a working on diesels for years he say if u want a truck to just use for pulling buy a ram if u want a truck to pull and daily driver buy a chevy he say the Ford are hard and expensive to work on and have more power train problems.he says if u could put a Ford on a ram chassis that would be a great truck buy the way he drives a ram diesel I have a chevy find what u like and what works for you
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I also drove the Ram and GM trucks before settling on the Ram. To be fair, I really liked a lot about the GM, but I don't like the IFS. The Duramax/ Allison combo was nice. I did not like the low hanging DEF box nor the lack of DEF gauge. Ram won hands down on serviceability... granted the engine bay is more crowded than my 05 Cummins was, but still a lot more open then the GM. I have been very happy with my Ram!

I never considered a Ford... I don't know why, for me there were two other good choices and I just don't like the Fords.
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I also drove the Ram and GM trucks before settling on the Ram. To be fair, I really liked a lot about the GM, but I don't like the IFS. The Duramax/ Allison combo was nice. I did not like the low hanging DEF box nor the lack of DEF gauge. Ram won hands down on serviceability... granted the engine bay is more crowded than my 05 Cummins was, but still a lot more open then the GM. I have been very happy with my Ram!

I never considered a Ford... I don't know why, for me there were two other good choices and I just don't like the Fords.
X2 to a Tee! Although, just this week was our maiden voyage pulling our 5th with our new Ram and when the EB works, works better than the Chevy I had, but it seems to work intermittently. The Chevy worked like a Class 8, foot off the throttle, EB comes on and stays on till about 30 mph. With my Ram, there are times the EB does not come on and there are times it cuts out at 50 mph when I would like it to continue working. Maybe I am doing something wrong, back to the owner's manual.
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There are two modes to the exhaust brake. I use full auto. At the top of a hill about to head down just tap the brakes once at the speed you want to hold and it will hold that speed down the hill. If using cruise control when it goes 3 mph over the set speed it will use the exhaust brake and shifting to bring the speed back down.
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I find that the exhaust brake will only disengage when the rpm's get below 1000 rpm. If you have the 3.42 you get to 1000rpm real quick. Best results for me when towing is to keep it in tow/haul. I use full exhaust braking only when is heavy traffic. Then automatic EB. I do have an advantage with the 4.10 ratio.
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