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Old 03-29-2007, 07:21 PM   #1
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I have a 99 F350 dully, 7.3 diesel and am thinking of adding a chip/programmer. Any one had experiences with chips and which brand would be best for towing? what are the bad and the good of adding a chip for more power and torque? thanks
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I have a 99 F350 dully, 7.3 diesel and am thinking of adding a chip/programmer. Any one had experiences with chips and which brand would be best for towing? what are the bad and the good of adding a chip for more power and torque? thanks
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Old 03-30-2007, 07:25 PM   #3
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Tom, A lot of "chips" are really programmers now. The replaceable "chipset" is almost a thing of the past with the OEM's now utilizing flash programmed EPROMs vs. replaceable chips.

There are a lot of programmers out there, such as Edge, PPE, Hypertech and others. However, beware of such products. Most simply overfuel the engine and can cause damage to turbos, literally melting the turbine vanes. Downstream of the turbo, this overfueling caused EGR (Exhaust Gas Recirculation) valve sooting and plugging, which can be an expensive repair. Also, as you add HP and torque, you are putting your transmission to risk.

Having said all that, there is an integrated solution, namely, Banks Power Systems.

Here's the link to their website.

http://www.bankspower.com/

It's not a cheap solution, at least from an initial acquisition cost but have you priced a new turbo or transmission for your truck lately?

I get nothing from Banks for recommending their products, however, after doing hours of research on different upgrades, I went with a Banks system on my '06 Chev DuraMax diesel. And, if you want to talk to a very knowledgeable fellow there, call the contact below.

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Old 03-31-2007, 06:20 AM   #4
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The web will be a useful tool. There are many websites for us diesel freaks.

The simplest starting point I would recommend is to pick up a copy of Diesel World, Diesel Power, and 8 Lug. These are magazines aimed squarely at guys like us - well me for sure.(I probably shouldn't be calling people freaks).

there will be a million and a half products advertised, showcased, and they all have websites.

Other sites are dedicated to just forums - the ones I frequent:
Competition Diesel
andDodge Ram Cummins freaks

there are many more, but start with the magazines and go from there, who knows you may discover there is a diesel performance shop around the corner from you.
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Old 03-31-2007, 06:32 AM   #5
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I highly recomend a chip/tuner for towing!!

I use a superchips in my truck with a 60 hp program. But if I were buying today, I may or may not go with superchips as there are other out there that are performing better.

I recomend you goto this powerstroke web site and read there. www.thedieselstop.com

You will learn everything and more about the 7.3L, Its an awesome motor!

But, before you chip/tune, you must get gages, at least EGT(exhaust gas temp.) I recomend pre turbo, to make sure you don't over heat the turbo. I also recomend a turbo boost, and if you have a auto trany, a trans oil temp gage.

Need recomendations on where to buy or how to install, photos let me know. Glad to help out.

You can see a few photos of my truck in photo link in sig.
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thedieselstop.com is an awsome site with more information on the 7.3 than will ever need to know. There is a section dedicated specifaccly to aftermarket upgrades. Other things to remember when tuning with either a chip or tuner is the additional wear and tear on the tranny. You will also want to upgrade the air intake and exhaust for better air flow to control EGT (Exhaust Gas Temps), and by all means, get gauges to keep an eye on Tranny temps and EGT. Also check out their sponsors. They are a great source for any of these after market upgrades.
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I use the SuperChips Micro Tuner and run on the Tow Safe setting. It make a tremendous improvement in the engine. I really enjoy driving the beast in the city and letting it run.

It is a crying shame that Ford stopped the 7.3L engine.

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Tom, I have the same truck as you. I have been running a 4", Turbo-back exhaust MBRP, system, an AE air intake filter and an Edge/Attitude for the past year. I run the edge at # 3 setting almost all the time. I have gained real strong pulling powewr in the hills & have not lost any MPG. I do get about 2 to 3 MPG better mileage bobtail. My 5ver is 16,000 lb, 38 ft Snowvilla. I like the setup as I can change the HP & Torque on the move & at will. On level pulling I have even run in #4 setting (Race). I would NOT do a programmer without proper guages.
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I too have the 99 CC psd and as others have stated, the first stop is get gauges. I have the EGT, Boost, Tranny Temp gauges mounted on my A pillar. After getting the gauges and chipping the truck I ran into EGT problems when pulling up mountains on the way to Arizonia. Had to keep backing out of the throttle as my temps were exceeding the 1300 max pre turbo limit. After getting home I installed a Banks Monster exhaust along with their Banks brake. That relieved the temp problem.

On the plus side, even at tow setting, it is as if you dropped about 1500 lbs off the truck. The truck has more scoot and pulls a lot stronger. I do drive sensibly with it, ie., I don't hook the trailer up and tromp on the accelerator putting all that torque on the tranny with a load. I am not looking to have to rebuild a tranny any time soon. It does make it a pleasure to pull a trailer with the added power. Grades that used to cause downshifting now just pull up the grade.
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I've learned over the years that you should improve the intake and exhaust flow before any other mods. The exhaust should be from the turbo back; otherwise you've wasted your money, because air or liquid flow are determined by the smallest diameter in the pipes. Imagine a 1/4" water hose supplying water to your RV vs a 3/4" hose. The exhaust down-pipe is the 1/4" hose. For gauges, two are essiential for a non-stock vehicle. A EGT gauge and a A/T temp gauge. A boost gauge, while neat to watch is not necessary, the truck will tell you immediately if turbo boost falls, power drops significantly. It will help you get better fuel mileage if used properly, but I doubt you'll ever save enough in fuel cost to recoup the gauge cost.
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Hello All,

I own a 2004.5 Dodge Ram 2500 CTD and absolutely love it. I'm in the process of adding a few performance items to improve the towing capabilities of my truck. The chip I went with is the Edge EZ, it is the mildest of the chips out there IMO and has 3 levels of performance to choose from . In my initial testing, I've been able to increase HP and Torque while getting 3MPG over stock (I'm getting 22-25mpg currently). I'm also installing a three gauge kit from Diesel Manor to monitor EGT, Boost, and Trans Temp. Since my truck is a 2004.5 it does have the Cat on it so I cannot do too much to improve the exhaust but have plans for a DIY intake that will increase the air coming in. I've already taken out the silencer from the stock intake in the meantime. Anyway that's how I'm trying to improve my tow vehicle, I hope you find it useful.

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Hi Pat, If you visit dodgeram.org you'll find a wealth of info. I installed a turbo-back 4" exhaust and it came with a CAT "test pipe", which allows the CAT to be removed from the exhaust system for testing purposes. I did forget to re-install the CAT and lost it somehow? I still miss that truck.
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