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Old 12-15-2007, 06:23 AM   #1
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gas or diesel.
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Old 12-15-2007, 06:23 AM   #2
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gas or diesel.
Do these things work?

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Old 12-15-2007, 07:10 AM   #3
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Welcome bitterroot to irv2.
I have installed a CAI, INSTALL ,from Brazels on my 8.1 Chev W-22, to eliminate problems with rain on MAF sensor. It opened up the radiator area and they say will aid the engine and some better milege.
I have added also ULTRAPOWER for more increase in mileage.
Check out info in the Workhorse forum there are some addons that do help, enjoy the forums and do post often.
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Old 12-15-2007, 08:37 AM   #4
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I have an aFe system. I have been very anal about trying to quantify the benefits.

cost - when the local dodge dealers more than double the cost of paper throwaway airfilters to $55, I started shopping.

washable/reusable seemed the best way to go. I started researching, and everyone agreed, that the stock airbox and tube was restrictive.

so - financially, spending 400ish on a CAI would take about 8 air filters to pay off.

fuel economy - I noticed about a 10% increase with the trailer attached (read from 10 mpg to 11 mpg). So, on my 06 coast to coast trip, I saved 120 bucks. Now down to 6 filter changes. Without the trailer 2-3 Mpg increase seems to be consistant. so , for every tank, I get a little further down the road so saving even at 5 bucks a tank, Every 10 tanks or so, I have bought back another filter.

Power hasn't been notably different, I can pull some hills faster than I used to (and have retro-fitted back to stock for same run to confirm). Its not neck snapping changes, but they are there.

Sound - noise has increase, but thats not a bad thing

Throttle response/turbo spooling- is noticeable.

I have washed my filter 5 times now, I do it more often because it doesn't cost me anything to do so. In reality, I think that it is now paid for after a year and a half after installation.
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I have a 2 two stage AFE on my 2002 Dodge and yes they do save you money on filters and increase airflow- it really is all about Fuel/ Air/Exhaust = better performance
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Old 12-16-2007, 01:39 AM   #6
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Old 12-16-2007, 04:15 PM   #7
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There are different issues to this. Without failure, any filter that reduces flow restriction through the same size plumbing must allow larger contaminants through. I choose not to risk my $10,000 diesel engine longevity by out-guessing design engineers.
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Ditto Ray! I've always been leary of after market add-ons. Especially on diesel engines, given the high cost of repairing any potential damage.
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Although this was done on Duramax air filters, this is the only independent test of aftermarket filter efficency that I'm aware of, and I found it very interesting. They used ISO testing of restriction and measured dust that past through the various filters.

Filter comparison

In a nutshell, it looks like all the aftermarket filters had slightly less restriction than the factory filter when new, but add a few minutes in dust and soon the factory filter was the least restrictive, and the factory filter allowed the least dust to pass through to the engine...

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