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Old 04-10-2014, 09:15 AM   #15
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I had a 2001 6.0L, 3/4 ton Silverado SB extend cab with 3:73 gears and the automatic with tow/haul. Pulled with this truck twice; fuel mileage was between 6 and 7 MPGS when towing a 2007 Ameri-Camp 270RK 5er. The weight of the trailer was around 10,000LBS.

Sold the truck to my son and bought a 2008 Ram Mega cab with the 6.7L Cummins-6 speed auto and 3:73 gears. Fuel mileage towing the above truck an the 2007 Ameri-Camp and a new 2010 S13SAB Cougar which has a weight of 11,000 LBS is around 11.5 MPG's.

In my opinion the gas engine when towing a heavy trailer will not provide decent fuel mileage at all. I know people do pull with a gas truck but they got more money than I do to spend on fuel.

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Towing a camper will cost you either way. The new diesel motor option is about $8000 more than a gas. If you finance it, more in interest is paid on the diesel and more cost per gallon for fuel. When I bought my '03 GMC a year ago in January it was about $10,000 cheaper than a diesel. The truck had 50,000 original miles and I paid $15,000 for it. For an extra $10,000 I could have had a diesel with about the same equipment and mileage in the same year. I thought I could buy a lot of gas for $10,000! I have only put about 3500 miles on the truck so far so buying new wouldn't have paid off for me. If you're going to keep and use the truck full time then the up front purchase cost might pay out for you in the long run. I bought used and saved $10,000 just to get a truck in the driveway and I only pay for gas when I use it for camping and backup emergency use. I'm sure it won't pull like a diesel or get me to the camp ground first but no matter what you are driving, there is always someone out there that is faster than you.
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Old 04-11-2014, 09:05 AM   #17
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Towing a camper will cost you either way. The new diesel motor option is about $8000 more than a gas. If you finance it, more in interest is paid on the diesel and more cost per gallon for fuel. When I bought my '03 GMC a year ago in January it was about $10,000 cheaper than a diesel. The truck had 50,000 original miles and I paid $15,000 for it. For an extra $10,000 I could have had a diesel with about the same equipment and mileage in the same year. I thought I could buy a lot of gas for $10,000! I have only put about 3500 miles on the truck so far so buying new wouldn't have paid off for me. If you're going to keep and use the truck full time then the up front purchase cost might pay out for you in the long run. I bought used and saved $10,000 just to get a truck in the driveway and I only pay for gas when I use it for camping and backup emergency use. I'm sure it won't pull like a diesel or get me to the camp ground first but no matter what you are driving, there is always someone out there that is faster than you.
Will I guess that is incorrect now; I just checked Gas Buddy and in my area regular is selling for $3.78 at Wal-Mart and Diesel is selling for $3.79 a gallon. At Shell regular is selling for $4.09 and diesel is selling for $3.99 a gallon.

Both of my vehicles are diesel my wife's Jetta is a TDI and the Ram is a Cummins. Both of these vehicles have lowered my over all fuel bill over a $1,000 a year and driving the same mileage.

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Will I guess that is incorrect now; I just checked Gas Buddy and in my area regular is selling for $3.78 at Wal-Mart and Diesel is selling for $3.79 a gallon. At Shell regular is selling for $4.09 and diesel is selling for $3.99 a gallon.

Both of my vehicles are diesel my wife's Jetta is a TDI and the Ram is a Cummins. Both of these vehicles have lowered my over all fuel bill over a $1,000 a year and driving the same mileage.

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Everyones situation is different. I currently own a diesel DT466 International and used to own a Mack 300, and come from a diesel back ground. I drive all gas pickups because I can't afford $40,000+ for a pickup. A lot of "Diesel Only" guys fail to realize a gas 3500 Dually will pull the same load as a diesel (You won't be king of the hill). Do you realize for some people that getting a gas 2500 or 3500 in a base model means the difference between towing the trailer they want or not at all? For instance a new chevy or 1ton DRW will cost me close to $50,000 for a diesel with the Lariat or LTZ package. If I buy the base gas model I can buy the truck and also buy my wife a car with the money saved. Its just amazing to me how just 20 years ago most everybody had big block gas trucks pulling campers. Everybody can't pay $40k for a pickup but may be able to pay for a $100 tank of gas and go the same places you just at the speed limit.
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Lady at work said her husband just sold their '04 Chevy Duramax with 42,000 miles for $27,000. They are planning on getting a '15 Chevy 3500 diesel to replace it for camping and she says "I'm not paying more that $50,000 for a new truck" I told her good luck with that one... What I don't get is their old truck did camper duty only and it was 10 years old so that puts it at 4200 miles a year in the past 10 years pulling a camper. Like was said above "to each their own". I would think there is a lot of miles left in that old '04 diesel for no more than they travel.
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I bought a plain XL F250 6.0L diesel for 20k with 3 year warranty left on it. Costing me 1/2 what I paid 9 years earlier for a new one.
I have taken 7 winter trip of no less than 6k miles each.
Use it for my summer business and it's a great performer.
Added what I wanted and after 7 years its actually better now then when I bought it. Not looking for an other yet. This one has not seen salt for 7 years.
It was a lease return with all maintenance done by the local dealer with all 20 pages of records.
I would only buy a similar unit if it would come up. I know the company that leases these so in a few year I might jump on a newer truck. No matter the brand if the price again is right.
But I will try to put $1000,00 every year in it and see what happens. I now have $5500.00 credit to start with.
A wise man told me that any vehicle that gets $1000 in repair every year will never die. It's like marriage you got to put something in it for it to last.
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I have 100K on a 2006 duramax and it cost me around $3000 just to get it in shape when I bought it. I plan on keeping it for about 20 years unless the body falls off.
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2012 GMC 2500HD LB 6.0L gets 9-10 mpg towing and 11 mpg otherwise. Wish I still had my 2001 Silverado with the 5.3L which got 10 mpg towing and 17 mpg otherwise.


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If you are doing the math on overall cost of diesel vs gas, remember to allow for the fact that 8-10 year old diesels still bring back most of their original cost difference as resale. I bought my '04 GMC Duramax 5 years ago for about $26KUSD. It has performed flawlessly all this time, towing 2 different 5th wheels over 24,000 miles. I've spent a modest amount of money on some mods to make it tow better but it has needed little in the way of repairs during that time. I like the idea that I can pull my fifth wheel 350 miles without refueling and if I did decide to sell my truck I will be able to get nearly my original cost. I see no need to buy anything else though, it does everything I need and then some
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Vette Racer, Go to AIRLIFT and look up the 5000 series airbags. If you decide to buy them be sure you call Airride before hand and get the ones that go inside the frame. It will smooth out your ride and make you a little happier when towing. BTW you can install the whole kit in 3 hr with an air wrench, all the hoses are slide lock and I'd recommend the compressor and tank also.
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We have a 2003 3500 Cummins with 6 spd. We get 12 to 14 mpg towing 34' FW. Empty we get 24 to 26mpg.(at speed limit). Got an 02 Yukon with 5.3 and it gets 19 to 20 mpg. Towing our 4000lb boat we are at 13 to 14 mpg.
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Have a 2011 Silverado 4X4 5.3 and a near 5K TT. Got near 11 mpg towing US gallons based on two very long trips over the Rockies and back, Empty 21-23 mpg but like to do the legal speed limits a maybe a little more if conditions allow. Had a similar 05 with the same TT but the 4 speed tranny and got 9 mpg towing and 19 empty. The 6 spd tranny and active cyclinder management accounts for most of the difference.
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I wish I could tell you the exact figures, but I have forgotten them. But I'll try and answer your question, in a round about sort of way. Once the warranty ran our on our '07.5 Dmax 4x4 dually, I got a programmer, got rid of the nonsense and saw a substantial increase in mileage (as a percentage, it was rather significant). If I can find the exact figures, I'll post it. It went from ridiculous to manageable. Roughly, I burn approximately the same amount of fuel now when towing (whether it's a loaded race trailer or boat) that I used to burn when empty. Point is, if you have an inefficient Dmax with the DPF, etc., and you can do it, it is more than worth it to do the mods. Regardless, keep your old exhaust system in case you ever need to switch back for whatever reason. I have custom tunes (5), and I'm quite happy with them. "Economy" (which is what I mostly use), "Heavy Tow" (use when going down/up hill with boat or race trailer (great turbo brake) or full time when hauling three ton of hay), "Light Tow" for towing in the flats, "Street" (nope, don't need it), and "Race" (really don't need it, but yes, I did give it a try a couple of times and wow!).



Okay, I'll admit this is before I put some decent tires on it and made the mods, but you get the idea.
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