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Old 08-23-2013, 02:52 PM   #1
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I am looking at the above fifth wheel. Hitch weight 2045. Dry weight 9598. Loaded weight 12750. What tow vehicle should I get?

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Old 08-23-2013, 03:30 PM   #2
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I am looking at the above fifth wheel. Hitch weight 2045. Dry weight 9598. Loaded weight 12750. What tow vehicle should I get?
Dry hitch weight and dry trailer weight are meaningless.

Assume the wet and loaded hitch weight will be 20 percent of the loaded weight, or 2,550 pounds.

So you need a tow vehicle with enough unused payload capacity to handle 2,550 pounds hitch weight, and enough GCWR to handle 12,750 pounds of gross trailer weight.

Using Ford as an example, the F-350 SRW diesel has 11,500 GVWR and 23,500 GCWR. The typical wet and loaded CrewCab 4x4 diesel will weigh at least 8,500 pounds, and probably 9,000 pounds. If it weighs 8,950 pounds, that leaves zero wiggle room. If it weighs 9,000 or more, you'll be overloaded. So with a new F-350 SRW, you must pay attention to the weight you haul in the bed and cab and trailer.

I don't like to be loaded to the max, so I would probably buy a dually for that trailer.

Grumpy ole man with over 50 years towing experience. Now my heaviest trailer is a 7,000-pound enclosed cargo trailer, RV is a 5,600 pound Skyline Nomad Joey 196S, and my tow vehicle is a 2012 F-150 3.5L EcoBoost SuperCrew.
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Old 08-25-2013, 09:36 AM   #3
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I agree. May not be what you wanted to hear, because most people want to get a 3/4 ton because "everyone else uses them to haul bigger trailers than that." But there's no way I would do that.
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Old 08-25-2013, 10:06 PM   #4
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Well I think you would do alright with a 350/3500 SRW just fine, I would go diesel, but all three have dicent gas engines for non diesel users.

Not likely that you will load that 5er with a full 3,000# of CCC. I tow a CC 293 FWSLS unit with a 2001 Ram 2500 with Camper package. The 293 FWSLS has about the same dry and GVWR as your does.

Yep, over the GVWR, but I have 1,500# of total axle capacity in reserve, 500# front, and 1,000 rear, this truck is an un-badged 3500 SRW.
I do this with a level truck and the only suspension enhancement is a full set of Bilstien 5100 shock, 100% factory 3500 springs no air bags.

Russ & Paula, Portland, OR.
The Beagles Precious and Belle. 2001 Dodge 2500 4X4, 5.9 Cummins 5 speed, 3.55 gears, Pacbrake PRXB, DS Power Puck, 304K.
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