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Old 10-31-2013, 11:38 PM   #29
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SeabeckS - I had a F-150 with that 5.0 litre engine. I really liked that truck engine transmission combo. In 1/2 ton trucks Ford probably has the best most solid frame.

Chevy probably caught up with the F-150. I test drove the 2011 Chevy and liked it just fine but a month later Ford had it's 2011 truck out. I jumped on the 5.0 litre truck as the 3.5 litre eco-boost was not out yet.

One thing I do not like about the new Chevy/GMC is their engines are still push rod engines and not over head cam engines.
Good to hear you were satisfied with the 5.0 liter...did you tow with that rig? I'm not a big fan of jumping on the latest and greatest technology, and my conservative outlook makes me shy away from the EcoBoost package. I see in the latest reliability reports in Consumer Reports that the 3.5 EB package is having some problems...of course they don't give specifics...but since F-150's have been one of the most reliable trucks in recent years, just raises my suspicion about EB motor package. Who knows actually, maybe it will work out, but I don't have time to wait for them to "fix" whatever the problem might be...

As to push rod vs ohc, I'm fine with a push rod motor. Overhead cams were developed "mostly" in a horsepower race. Horsepower is fine, but a truck needs torque, and push rod motors seem to be fine. Just one man's opinion of course!

Thanks for your input!

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Old 11-01-2013, 12:06 AM   #30
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we used Costco to buy our Jeep; it could not have been easier. they ordered it to our wants/needs we did not have to hagel and at a better price than I could get thru the Army down range. I plan to use Costco to buy our next truck..
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Old 11-01-2013, 12:15 AM   #31
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we used Costco to buy our Jeep; it could not have been easier. they ordered it to our wants/needs we did not have to hagel and at a better price than I could get thru the Army down range. I plan to use Costco to buy our next truck..
Thanks, I just saw that Costco has a special deal going with GM right now, guess I should check into it soon... One concern is finding the EXACT model of truck I want...not interested in something off a lot somewhere that has "almost" the right equipment. Won't know until I ask that question...LOL

Thanks for the input...cheers!

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Back then the Japanese cars were mostly over head cam engines while the US cars had a couple of over head cam engines. The Saturn was one US car with over head cam engine. The Saturn was a 'zippy' car.
And some used Honda engines and drivetrain.
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If you are still looking for F150, I purchased the 2013 EB with tow package. Im very impressed Ford has worked the bugs out of it. Great torque/hp. I pull. 4400 lb travel trailer in the mountains. Tahoe area. Long trips I get 15-17 mpg ( light foot on turbo)lol. In it a lot worse k have seen was 13.5. Very happy.
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By the way I didn't get 373 gears I special ordered 355 with tow package to help with highway.
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If you are still looking for F150, I purchased the 2013 EB with tow package. Im very impressed Ford has worked the bugs out of it. Great torque/hp. I pull. 4400 lb travel trailer in the mountains. Tahoe area. Long trips I get 15-17 mpg ( light foot on turbo)lol. In it a lot worse k have seen was 13.5. Very happy.
Thanks for the feedback, I can see why you're happy with the EB package. Those roads in that section of the Sierras are not conducive to good mpg figures. We used to live in that region too, so quite familiar with the steep grades and high elevations!

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I have purchased my last 3 vehicles through Costco, the last being a 2013 F150. All have started at $300 to $600 below invoice and negotiated from there. You still get all current incentives on top of that. Yes, not all dealers will honor Costco, but work with those that will as recommended by Costco. None took over 1 hour from look to sign.

I ordered an Ecoboost with Max tow, and HD payload plus exactly the options I wanted.

Final cost was $7,500 below list.
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I have purchased my last 3 vehicles through Costco, the last being a 2013 F150. All have started at $300 to $600 below invoice and negotiated from there. You still get all current incentives on top of that. Yes, not all dealers will honor Costco, but work with those that will as recommended by Costco. None took over 1 hour from look to sign.

I ordered an Ecoboost with Max tow, and HD payload plus exactly the options I wanted.

Final cost was $7,500 below list.
That's quite a deal (obviously! lol) and gives me a good idea of a ball park number.

Unfortunately due to a recent turn of events our purchase date has been pushed back a bunch. Really had hoped to have a new truck in the garage in the next 5 or 6 weeks, then start shopping travel trailers in the spring.

Been spending some of the "extra" time doing online truck building/pricing, and as a result will be looking really hard at comparing cost differences between a 150 or 250. IF we could buy right now, I'd be very tempted to do a 250. Seems by the time you option up a 150 to get the best payload/tow capacity you are spending very near 250 level. Not a fan of the EB option and mpg isn't really a huge concern, our truck won't get that much use when it's not hooked up to a trailer. Also, not willing to spend a whole bunch of dough stepping up to diesel either.

Thanks for the input!!!

Happy Holidays!

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