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Old 07-07-2012, 04:23 PM   #1
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Diesel Additives

Hello All;
Being relatively new to the diesel world, I am looking for some advice on diesel additives. I have a new F450 6.7l with about 15k miles on it so far and I want to take good care of the engine from the get go. At the ford dealerships, they sell this Cetane Booster, but looking at various stores like Autozone, NAPA, Advance, etc, I don't find anything that mentions 'boosting cetane', but mentions other benefits.
I have come across many posts that mention changes to diesel formulation to take out lubricants, etc, so am concerned that what I am putting into the truck may need some additives. I am open to suggestions.
thanks!
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Check your cetane requirement in your owners manual and compare to pump cetane. Add cetane only if pump cetane is lower than you engines requirement.

There are other diesel fuel additives that you may find more useful to keep you injectors and pumps clean and lubed, reduce corrosion, and improve water and diesel seperation.
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Old 07-07-2012, 06:54 PM   #3
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An engineer at GM once wrote "If GM thought an aditive waS NECESSARY, GM would of added an resivor for it and assigned the additive a GM Part number. I was Cat recentley and asked one of their Engineers about additives. He said they just are NOT Needed. Asked Cummings and they answered very simply "Why?" ed
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Ford, GM, Cat and Cummins all recommend and offer diesel fuel additives with their brand names and part numbers. Use them if they improve mpg, performance and save you money. Don't if they don't. I think older diesels designed to run on the older higher sulfur diesel would have the most benefit.
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...GM, Cat and Cummins all recommend and offer diesel fuel additives.....
I don't believe that's true. I've had a GM Duramax and have a Cummins now, both said additives are not necessary.
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I don't believe that's true. I've had a GM Duramax and have a Cummins now, both said additives are not necessary.
88861009 - GM CONDITION

http://www.cumminsfiltration.com/htm...bo_diesel.html
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While not 'required', many want and do add to their trucks...

I went to wally world and bought a gallon of their diesel kleen - there is a white bottle and gray bottle....
diesel kleen - Walmart.com

and try to add about 4 ounces per tank full every so often,
necessary ? no... but small investment in the life of my new 6.7...

(fyi, 4th diesel and first one I've put it in...
all others ran well over 150k without it before I tired of the truck and updated...)
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While not 'required', many want and do add to their trucks...

I went to wally world and bought a gallon of their diesel kleen - there is a white bottle and gray bottle....
diesel kleen - Walmart.com

and try to add about 4 ounces per tank full every so often,
necessary ? no... but small investment in the life of my new 6.7...

(fyi, 4th diesel and first one I've put it in...
all others ran well over 150k without it before I tired of the truck and updated...)
I love it, and it just goes to prove TV's are scarily overpriced. You've had 3 previous diesels with no issues and now you're concerned even though you'll get tired of it long before the engine wears out and trade it in?

Why spend anything if you have proven 3 times it's unnecessary? Have anything to do with the $50,000.00+ price tag!
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My Ford diesel Owner's Guide said you don't need anything in the fuel tank but good clean highway (taxed) fuel purchased at a busy truckstop. It has everything you need in it.

However, digging deeper, Ford published at least one TSB that said in some areas of the USA for a year or so back in the early 2000s, the normal diesel didn't have enough cetane, and recommended owners add some if necessary. That was only in Wisconsin and the states surrounding Wisconsin, so I never bothered.

As to the usefullness of ordinary diesel fuel additive available at truckstops and WalMart, most of it is snake oil. What works and is necessary in the frozen north is winterizer (anti-gell), which keeps the diesel from turning to jello in cold weather. The refinery adds enough to do the job under most conditions, but if you have an unexpected cold snap with temps much below normal for that time of year, you may need to add some more winterizer to the fuel to prevent the fuel from gelling.

Yes, Ford sells a cetane booster. But you don't need it if you buy your diesel from reliable truckstops. Over 12 years and 194,000 miles, I never added anything to my fuel, and my truck was running great when I sold it.
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I'm not saying I don't use it, just that the manufacturers don't recommend it. They're selling it, not "recommending" it. Look in the owner's manual or call the 800#.
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I love it, and it just goes to prove TV's are scarily overpriced. You've had 3 previous diesels with no issues and now you're concerned even though you'll get tired of it long before the engine wears out and trade it in?

Why spend anything if you have proven 3 times it's unnecessary? Have anything to do with the $50,000.00+ price tag!
Excuse me ?
Had to go back and read my post based on what you read into it
How does trying to answer a question have anything to do with the price of vehicles

Did not go into be detail about why, etc... just giving an option to help the op out...
I never said I was concerned, just trying it out....
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I'm not saying I don't use it, just that the manufacturers don't recommend it. They're selling it, not "recommending" it. Look in the owner's manual or call the 800#.
The OEM's market their own brands of diesel fuel additives, but don't recommend them? That doesn't make sense...

Stanadyne says "General Motors, Volkswagen, Navistar, John Deere, Caterpillar, AM General and others have recommended using Stanadyne diesel fuel additives in their engines or vehicles.".
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