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01-05-2016, 03:42 PM
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Diesel anti-gel measure methods
I use anti-gel that recommends 1 oz of product to 3 gals diesel fuel. I buy it in gal containers and have been transferring it into 3 - 8 oz bottles for a fast way to add it at the pump. It's OK, but a little messy. Plus I try to use fuel points on my credit card which means I top up with only a few gallons sometimes. Is there a good, long-neck, measuring container or other method that might make this easier? I know some guys just dump some in and everything is fine. But I am a bit OCD, because my job involves transferring fluids accurately - so I might be over-doing it!
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01-05-2016, 03:56 PM
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My word, where do you travel and at what temperatures? We occasionally run or spend nights at temps in the high teens and have never had diesel jelling problems. If you're traveling or stopping in areas where temps are regularly below the cloud point of #2 diesel, #1 should be available at the pump. Use it or mix it with the #2 when fuel is warm or when you've just filled and the #2 is still relatively warm. Adding #1 when #2 fuel temp is below the cloud point will not work to reduce the cloud point in the mix.
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01-05-2016, 04:25 PM
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Chances are that anti-gel has been added to the fuel being sold in your area.
I use the measurements on the side of previously used eight ounce bottles to measure out any additives I want to use. I'm only concerned about water, not fuel gelling, as I have recently been in temps below +20F with no fuel gelling even on cold morning start.
Most fuel problems in cold weather have nothing to do with cloud point, gelling, or diesel. Cold Weather Fuel Issues: The Safe Answer is Gelling | Fuel content from Fleet Owner
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01-05-2016, 04:29 PM
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Only had diesel fuel gel one time in 1984 when temps reached -16.
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01-05-2016, 05:22 PM
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The additive I use has benefits other than retarding icing. The use of it in my area is subjective. I want to use it and wanted suggestions about how to easily measure it.
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01-05-2016, 05:36 PM
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Buy a bunch of little plastic bottles from amazon that you like and are the size of the amount of additive you want to use, pre-fill the little bottles, carry them around in a plastic ammo box style box, and add one bottle each time you fuel.
I use this method and a long narrow funnel. Works like a charm especially since I have a little box built into the rear left passenger seat floor to store the funnel.
Good Luck.
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01-05-2016, 06:31 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by tinkerreknit
The additive I use has benefits other than retarding icing. The use of it in my area is subjective. I want to use it and wanted suggestions about how to easily measure it.
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Just curious, what other benefits? I was have always been of the school of thought that there is a lot of snake oil out there that does more harm than good in the life of a diesel.
Today's diesels are pretty efficient and as previously mentioned regional diesel is generally already treated for gelling.
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01-05-2016, 06:42 PM
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Once again, I only want measurement ideas. This isn't a thread debating what I put into my tank. I do appreciate the interest, but I don't want a debate about additives and benefits - as I stated, it is subjective and not factual.
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01-05-2016, 07:20 PM
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Get a baby bottle, they have ounces on the side of the bottle and a cap.
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01-05-2016, 08:31 PM
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An 8 oz. Sta-bil gasoline additive bottle has a 1/2 oz. measure built into it.
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01-06-2016, 09:06 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by racer4
An 8 oz. Sta-bil gasoline additive bottle has a 1/2 oz. measure built into it.
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I agree... The Sta-Bil bottles are easy to measure your amount..
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01-06-2016, 09:17 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Pigman1
My word, where do you travel and at what temperatures? We occasionally run or spend nights at temps in the high teens and have never had diesel jelling problems. If you're traveling or stopping in areas where temps are regularly below the cloud point of #2 diesel, #1 should be available at the pump. Use it or mix it with the #2 when fuel is warm or when you've just filled and the #2 is still relatively warm. Adding #1 when #2 fuel temp is below the cloud point will not work to reduce the cloud point in the mix.
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Pigman1
I agree
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01-06-2016, 11:27 AM
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I live where it gets below the cloud point of dsl and #1 is not available at the pumps. It used to be. Why not just help with what he is asking.
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01-06-2016, 11:48 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by NevadaNick
I live where it gets below the cloud point of dsl and #1 is not available at the pumps. It used to be. Why not just help with what he is asking.
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NevadaNick
For 12 years I've driven of Wisconsin in Jan. and back home in late Feb., (often in sub zero weather), with no diesel additives in my fuel.
Methinks not using any additive might be the best/simplest answer to the OPs problem.
Mel
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