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Old 10-05-2016, 01:13 PM   #43
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My beef is finding deisal pump at smaller stations. No consistency as to color. Usually on outside lane but not always. Look for extra pump in lane is usually deisal but a second or third hose maybe E85.

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Old 10-05-2016, 01:19 PM   #44
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Originally Posted by CHS32 View Post
Ditto on Gas Buddy. I drive a 39' diesel pusher towing a Wrangler. Just made an 12,000 mile trip to Alaska and back. We routinely use Gas Buddy to look ahead and plan our fuel stops. Truck stops such as Pilot and Loves are routinely 25 to 35 cents more than some of the smaller gas stations. We used about 1500 gallons, so 25 cents a gallon adds up pretty fast. There really aren't mom and pop stations around much anymore. Anything close to the interstate is going to be busy. I've got 50,000 miles on this thing and never had a bad fuel problem. I do check my fuel filters regularly and change them every 9,000 miles.
Ditto x2 on Gas Buddy. We look for independent truck stops or SAMs Clubs that have diesel. In AZ Fryes grocery store fuel is usually competitive. Also in AZ if you buy fuel at a truck stop they will charge you the extra commercial vehicle tax. You have to then ask for a refund.

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Old 10-05-2016, 02:14 PM   #45
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Check with Titan Tanks for an extended fuel tank for your truck. We have 65 gal tank put in our F350. Has almost paid for itself in the past year by saving time refueling and buying more at lower prices when we find it.
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Old 10-05-2016, 02:48 PM   #46
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Why does flying j charge .5 cents more for diesel when using my credit card and not .5 cents more when filling up my toad with regular gas.
If you fill up on the auto side they will not charge you the additional 5 -6 cents a gallon if using a credit card.

The card is to recoup cc fees. There was a big lawsuit in the early 2000's through OOIDA and the truckers lost that one.

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Old 10-05-2016, 02:54 PM   #47
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I recently did a 5000 mile trip in my Transit van and used mostly Loves and Flying J. Why, I trust their fuels and they had places where I could grab a quick snack and had clean restrooms. Been in the Moms and Pops and some of those places are worst than the most seediest truckstop I have been in.

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Old 10-05-2016, 03:07 PM   #48
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I have that fear of getting in and cannot get out so I use truck stops mostly. I use gas buddy also but I wish they could give some information about in and out towing a car. It takes a good size space to turn around with a 40 plus MH
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Old 10-05-2016, 03:17 PM   #49
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I use both truck stops and station pumps but check the pricing first. Some states tax truck fuel differently than automotive diesel fuel. I saved $.20 per gallon just by using a different lane. As for using truck lanes, try getting into an automotive lane pulling a 40' fifth wheel. I know I can easily pull through and get out of a lane that a semi uses. My truck requires DEF fluid which is becoming more available but usually only in the truck lanes. I have found truckers really don't mind the RV guys as long as we get in and get out. Just don't go inside and screw around while your in the truck line. Be friendly and they don't mind.
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Old 10-05-2016, 03:19 PM   #50
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Where to fuel

I try to also Fuel at Truck stops, Flying J offers Good Sam members 3-5 cents off per gallon, When I see a Shell or Chevron I will go there first as they van be 25-35 cents a gallon cheaper and with both I get an automatic 5 cents off my bill when my statement comes. The only other benefit for Truck stops is their air is 150-175 PSI most gas stations maybe 100 psi, so filling my tires to 110psi cold is tough.
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Old 10-05-2016, 05:10 PM   #51
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I use truck stops when I can

I drive a 40 ft motorhome with a tow vehicles so my problems are a little different from the those towing a 5th wheel. I can not back up without unhooking my tow vehicle. I have well maintained water filters as well as particle filters and I have never hand problems with bad diesel fuel. Gasoline in earlier rigs was a problem.

When we started traveling simi-fulltime three years ago We used GasBuddy and looked for the cheapest fuel even if it meant driving a few miles out of the way. What I found was that many of the smaller stations have positioned their pumps such that that you must drive into the stations make a sharp turn to get to the pump them another sharp turn to get back to the street. Many of these can not accommodate 40 foot anything much less a tow vehicle, and once you are committed you must juggle back and forth to get in and out.

After a year of this foolishness we decided to try the truck stops. We found the truckers to be friendly and helpful. Yes, there is occasionally fuel spill and some of them are mine. Wear covers over your shoes and throw them away.

I try to remember the drivers are working and if they are stopped for any reason, their money stops. For that reason, I try to stay out of the way and pull out away from the pump as soon as I am filled and the windshield clean. This allows my wife to go into he store at her leisure.

This year we applied for a Flying J credit card. It is tied to a separate bank account I created for the purpose. I make a purchase at the pump with card, and in a few days I get a receipt by e-mail. Then at the end of the month I get an e-mail that states the amount they will draft from my account and when.

For all this they give me a 9 cent per gallon discount from the posted cash price. This is usually a few cents more or less than other stations in the area, so I quit trying to get into those tight places. As a bonus, since I use this regularly, I do not feel bad when I need a stopping place for the night. I just stop some place out of the way and camp for the night. Genset ok. Slides OK. Jacks OK. Usually a good restaurant for breakfast the next morning and I am on my way. Even the grandkids though it was cool that we stopped with the truckers.

Please note. The places are noisy. The stations away from the interstate are usually less desirable, and the pump have large nozzles that will not fit normal tanks, and the fuel come out fast so be careful not to slip. With these pumps I can get over 50 gallons in the time it takes to get 20 gallons at my local Kroger.

We will continue to us the truck stops because they are easier for us.
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Old 10-05-2016, 05:46 PM   #52
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Gasbuddy for me, lowest is best. I will fuel up at a truck stop only if I stay the night. Their price is allways higher, sometimes much higher, even with the few pennies you get with the card.

I have no problem to fuel up at the big lanes, I don't think I ever saw "NO RV", whatever the trucker think about it is not my problem.
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Old 10-05-2016, 06:20 PM   #53
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Regardless of how accommodating fuel stations can be, it is still a pain to fuel up while towing. This is the primary reason I'm shopping for an auxiliary fuel tank so I can fuel up once a day preferably after I've unhooked.
I replaced my factory Ford F450 38 gal tank with a Transferflow 60 gal tank. That way I don't sacrifice any of my truck bed space for the other things I carry there like 2 Honda generators, a 35 gal waste tote and a 90 gal fresh water bladder when I need it.
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Old 10-05-2016, 07:57 PM   #54
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Re: refueling diesel at truck islands rather then gas islands

The reason the diesel fuel at the truck islands is more expensive is because I know for a fact, that in Illinois at least, truck fuel is higher because trucking firms are not required to pay the excise tax imposed on their rigs' license plates because most of them are driving between states as opposed to within a single state. Moreover, non-taxed diesel fuel (fuel used by non-commercial vehicles, such as pickups) is tinted green to distinguish it from taxed fuel intended to be used by truckers. If a trooper or someone from the Secretary of State checks a trucker's fuel tanks and discovers there if green tinted diesel in the tank, the trucker immediately goes to jail, his/her rig is impounded, and he/she receives a hefty fine as well. Hope this helps to discern why trucker island fuel is more costly than at the regular islands. This Illinois law also applies to farmer's as well. If a farmer is caught using green tinted diesel in his tractors, combines, or semis, he is eligible for the same arrest, impounding, and fine as the truck drivers. Also that explains why diesel fuel at the regular islands might not be as fresh as at the trucker's islands. Truckers purchase fuel in greater quantities and more fill-ups by volume than at the regular islands. Hence, the diesel at the regular islands grows stale more quickly as a result due to smaller purchases. Also, the diesel fuel for regular islands cannot be stored in the same storage tank as the fuel used by over the road truckers because one is almost clear while the second is tined green.
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Old 10-05-2016, 08:13 PM   #55
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Biodiesel at truck stops

In my operators manual Thor Tuscany, Cummins; it says you must service the engine more often if you use biodiesel. That is why I only buy DEF at truck stops. No biodiesel for my Cummins!
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Old 10-05-2016, 08:16 PM   #56
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In my operators manual Thor Tuscany, Cummins; it says you must service the engine more often if you use biodiesel. That is why I only buy DEF at truck stops. No biodiesel for my Cummins!
What does where one buys DEF have to do with altered service intervals due to using biodiesel fuel??

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