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Old 08-23-2005, 09:04 AM   #15
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Ken Lenger:
61,000 miles for a MH may be considered high milage, but for a diesel pick-up truck tow vehicle, it's just getting broken in. The life of a CTD is 300k - 400k, with some getting over 1M miles. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>

Every mile of those 61,000 miles that 454 was operating near its max load capacity. Unless you take your trailer with you everywhere, that isn't true of your truck.

Diesel engines lasting 300, 400, even 1m K miles in over the road usage doesn't mean they will last that long in typical RV usage. Short trip driving, bad fuel, poor maintenance can junk any engine, gas or diesel, in relatively low miles.

Resale value is a short term issue that fades as vehicles get older. A ten year old gas truck in good condition and less than 100,000 miles on it will be worth a lot more than any similar diesel pickup with 300,000 miles on it, I guarantee you.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Alan554:
A ten year old gas truck in good condition and less than 100,000 miles on it will be worth a lot more than any similar diesel pickup with 300,000 miles on it, I guarantee you. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>You haven't attempted to purchase any used 1st or 2nd generation Dodge/Cummins pickups, I see.

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I just sold a 87 Ford 460 gas truck in great condition with an overhaul within last 22,000 miles. It got 6 towing and 10 empty. If it had been a diesel I could have easily got $3000 more than I got for the gas truck and it would have sold much faster. Everybody wants a diesel down here.

Two weeks ago I calculated fuel cost / MPG for our present diesel and our Jeep Cherokee (gas) to see which was a more economical daily driver. The Jeep came to 0.11 cents per mile and the F350 came to 0.13 cents per mile. With prices changing daily on fuel, I will need to recalculate often, but it did let us know that driving the F350 is/was not much different than the Jeep. (Jeep gets 22 MPG, F350 dually get 18 MPG) Our commute is all highway miles, 75 round trip per day. At that time diesel was 0.09 cents cheaper than gas.
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Got a neighbor with 700,000 plus miles on his CTD and it runs BETTER than new.
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[QUOTE]Originally posted by tps0424:
Have you thought about the Ford v10? It now has 3 valves per cylinder and it's hp and tq ratings are close to that of a diesel. Also the Ford v10 is very durable.

I owned an 04 Ford with the 6.0 PSD and after losing confidence in that engine I ordered an 05 F350 V10 and so far I like it very much.
I had owned a 95 and 00 7.3 PSD and had been very happy with those . Good mileage and very reliable. My 6.0 was hard on fuel and left me stranded on the road twice.

I want to make a comment on the costs of owning diesel engines versus gas engines.Everyone assumes that a diesel engine will give you 300,000 miles of trouble free ownership and in a perfect world that might be true.

If you plan on keeping your vehicle beyond warranty coverage, the diesel egine has some very expensive parts that do fail on occasion.
The cost of replacing a Turbo could be as high as 4000 dollars. Any fuel savings over the lifetime of the vehicle are gone in the failure of that part alone.

I am more comfortable keeping a gas engine beyond warranty and many gas engines now go well over 200,000 miles with no repairs.

The new high tech diesel engines because of EGR
(Exhaust Gas Recircultion) put soot back through the motor and the chance of these engines lasting as long as the older diesels is slim. Brouse the diesel sites and see how many owners are disconnecting their EGR valves to stop them from sooting up.

The new diesel engines offer outstanding performance but everything has a price.
Before 1994, you had to buy the big block gassers to get the highest tow ratings available.When the turbo diesels came out,they had the highest tow ratings. Now with Ford in 05
you can get the same tow ratings in both the V10 gas and the 6.0 PSD and that is good for the buyer that wants a gas engine.

Good luck to everone in whatever they choose to tow with.
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<BLOCKQUOTE class="ip-ubbcode-quote"><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-title">quote:</div><div class="ip-ubbcode-quote-content">Originally posted by Diesel Don:
The new high tech diesel engines because of EGR (Exhaust Gas Recircultion) put soot back through the motor and the chance of these engines lasting as long as the older diesels is slim. Brouse the diesel sites and see how many owners are disconnecting their EGR valves to stop them from sooting up. </div></BLOCKQUOTE>For clarification, the Cummins 5.9L does NOT utilize EGR - yet!

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