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Old 06-21-2012, 11:44 PM   #1
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Does towing a 5er wear down tires faster?

It seems that since I changed to a fifth wheel, I'm burning through my tires faster than I was when I had a travel trailer. Is that normal? On my last truck I went through 2 sets of Goodyear Silent Armor tires, and both lasted for over 55k. On the new truck, with the new trailer, I put the same tires on January. Now I have about 20k miles on them, and there is no way they will make it another 30k. Is this simply because the fifth wheel has more weight in the bed of the truck? Spending over a grand in tires each year is already rough enough, having to do it even faster isn't sitting well with me...

Thanks in advance for any answers!

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Old 06-22-2012, 12:37 AM   #2
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I did notice the rear tires on my truck wore faster than the front, even rotating them every 6k, wrote it off to the weight, extra ton on the rear and possi unit, still managed 60k on the rear tires 50+ of that towing. Maybe could have got anothe 5 but was planing a 12k trip and changed before I left. Then traded to a Class A before I got home .
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Old 06-22-2012, 12:42 AM   #3
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Wow. I'm impressed that you made it 60k on them! What tires were you using? I'm rotating them better than I did on the last truck, but run the same PSI that I always did. Both trucks were rated the same for towing weights, even though the last one was a 2500, vs this 3500.
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Old 06-22-2012, 05:21 AM   #4
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The tires transmit more drive, braking and cornering forces when you're towing, so it's reasonable that they would wear faster. Do you have a SRW or dually? On our last 3 duallies, I haven't noticed abnormally fast tire wear, but I'm spreading the additional load over 4 rear tires instead of 2.

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Both trucks were rated the same for towing weights, even though the last one was a 2500, vs this 3500.
There's a lot of discussion about the inaccuracy of "manufacturer's rated towing capacity", so I'll let that one alone for now, but you can't stop with that number in an evaluation. Since a 5th wheel transfers ~20% of its loaded weight to the truck, one must also look at the difference in the truck's GVWR and rear axle GAWR ratings to ensure that they're not exceeded. I suspect the advantage of the 3500 would show up there.

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Old 06-22-2012, 06:41 AM   #6
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I tow a fiver and got 65k on a set of michelins. I got 50k. on a set of Firestone. Michelin have a mileage warranty on their e rated tires. The only one and I went back to Michelin because of it. Also I got about 1 mile per gal better fuel mileage with the michelins over the Firestone. They studies show tread design can effect mileage and winter tires will wear quicker than summer tread. I track mileage very seriously every trip watching tire pressure and clean filters on my trk. Good luck in finding the answer to your wear problem. Jeffp. Dodge diesel pulling a fiver lots of miles.
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I had Michelins on the truck, all the time I had it , but the same series of tire was not availible when I repaced them , so I can only speak to the performance of the one tread pattern.
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I guess I need to start looking into Michelins for the next round. I knew Goodyear didn't warranty for mileage on mine, but didn't realize someone else would. I had also kicked around the idea of upgrading to 19.5" wheels, and getting commercial trucking tires.

Sorry Rusty, I phrased that horribly. My previous truck was a 2500 that towed a TT. On the 2500 we went through 2 sets of the Goodyear Wrangler Silent Armor E tires. Both sets lasted over 50k. When we bought this truck, we bought the fifth wheel. I put the same set of tires on the current SRW 3500 as I had used on the 2500. Both trucks have the same tire sticker on the door, so I inflate the tires on the 3500 the same as I did on the 2500. We tow about as regularly in both trucks, as the traveling is done for work not for recreation.

Jeff-I totally understand how different treads could wear faster...but with the same tread wouldn't it stay the same?
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I would guess that it should but beyond my experience I would be lost for an answer. My suggestion would be to go to a place like discount tire and ask them as all they do is tires. They don,t even do alignments but do sell many different makes of tires. I also had a friend that could not get more than about30k. On any tires including michelins and that was without regular towing. Good luck with the answer and let us know what you find out. Jeffp.
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The OE Michelins on my 2005 Dodge/Cummins TV (see sig) went 82,000 miles before replacing them with the same tires. I am guessing that I tow 20-25% of the miles on my truck.
My 2006 Buick Rainer AWD SUV went 85,000 on the original Michelins, also replaced them with the same Michelins as OE.
Not to start a war here, Michelins are expensive but in my estimation they are the least expensive in the long run.
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Several things have changed.

1: Weight on the rear tires on your truck MAY have changed, or not, depends on the two trailers.

2: Total weight towed, may have increased, or now (same depends)

3: Tire quality may have decreased... Overseas production don't you know.

4: Manner of driving may have changed.

And the ever popular "Other changes".
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Thanks guys! I guess it's time to start looking into Michelins. Is anyone changing over wheels to run a more common commercial tire size? I'd be willing to entertain that idea, if those tires would end up lasting me longer or serving me better.
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