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Old 05-06-2015, 11:03 PM   #29
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Congratulations on the new (to you) truck. I just traded my 2009 2500 on a slightly used 2014 3500 DRW, and I could not be happier. Engine and trans are basically identical (the 2014 has a bit more torque), but the real difference is in the new chassis and the DRW configuration. Those duals really make the side to side motion go away. The DRW is way more stable in the curves both empty and when towing, and I have about 2000lb of payload left for a future tool box or fuel tank in the bed.

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Old 05-07-2015, 07:23 AM   #30
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Glad that you got a big enough truck to do the job. I have been an advocate of duallies for years. It is unbelievable the difference in towing those 2 extra tires make.
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The extra tires have nothing to do with stability. It's the extra ply of springs that add stability. Look at the transports now are set up with singles. Air bags do not cut it neither for stability.
Actually I feel that the DWR trucks these days have to soft springs for being loaded with 4 to 5 thousand lbs full time.
I noticed that the 450/550 or 4500/5500 have the proper springs for constant loading.
My F250 has 2 additional ply each side. One for stability and one short one for smooth riding loaded. It works and I would not have it any other way.
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Old 05-07-2015, 06:30 PM   #32
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[QUOTE=caissiel;2545919]The extra tires have nothing to do with stability. It's the extra ply of springs that add stability. Look at the transports now are set up with singles. Air bags do not cut it neither for stability.

I have to respectfully disagree. It may not be the tires themselves that offer the extra stability, but the wider stance certainly does. I will agree with you about the air bags. They are just for load leveling.
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I only have air bags on the rear of my truck, no springs at all. and there is no sway plus a Cadillac type ride when loaded and a smoother than stock ride when empty. One added point is that adding Bilstien shocks made a huge difference in ride over stock. The added air bags do help stabilize the ride somewhat.
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The extra tires have nothing to do with stability. It's the extra ply of springs that add stability. Look at the transports now are set up with singles. Air bags do not cut it neither for stability.

I have to respectfully disagree. It may not be the tires themselves that offer the extra stability, but the wider stance certainly does. I will agree with you about the air bags. They are just for load leveling.
Having driven several 100,000 miles on singles and duallys, I agree with Scotty. The duallys are definately more stable.
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I have a 14 3500 Srw If your 5th wheel is going to weigh 14000 empty figure 15,500 loaded to 16,000 I would difinatly rhink about a dually. Jmo

And a Diesel too.
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The people that say a Dually makes no difference don't have one or have added lots of parts to their 250/350 srw to "TRY" to make it do a Dually's job.
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We made the decision when we were looking last fall at the Ram 2500 vs 3500. We planned on the 2500. But I keep my trucks for ever, until the cows come home. I still have my 2001 F-150 with 175k on it. Could not get rid it as it is part of the family.

Sorry... So we plan for the what ifs, knowing the 2500 would have meet our TT 7000 weight needs. But the thing we looked at was with the same gears, engine size and type, bed, etc. The payload was 3200 vs 4050 which would help us if we
got a 5th down the road.

For us at the time their was a bigger difference in rebates, etc and the 3500 only cost us $75.00 more, simply because of the rebates for the same truck, different color.

If I was to do this again I would get the 1 ton with no questions.
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Note my earlier post. On a Ford, it's over $800 more MSRP for the F-350 SRW. Different rear axle and rear springs is about all the difference you'll find.

But the F-350 DRW "Dooley", which is a real one-ton dually, is a much stronger animal and lists for more than $2000 more than an F-250.

I realize that the OP has made his decision, but just in case anyone stumbles across this thread, I wanted to clarify some incorrect info that was posted by an otherwise knowledgeable member. The F250 and F350 SRW are 100% identical. The springs from the 350 are the same as the 250 with the addition of a single overload spring. This single overload spring can also be had on the 250 if the camper package is ordered. There is also a taller suspension block on the 350 SRW standard that only comes on the 250 if the plow prep is ordered. The axles are also the same. The axle discrepancy seems to come up often as Ford has a misprint in their literature but it can be easily be clarified by simply looking up the part numbers on any Ford dealers website. Bottom line is the 250 is de-rated from Ford to appeal to a different market segment but is in no way physically different from the SRW 350. A 250 can be ordered to the identical specs of a SRW 350 however it will never be identical on paper. To those who worry about such things, a 350 SRW is worth the $800. To those who are not, the $800 is unwarranted. Only the end user can decide what is right for them on this issue. However, since they are 100% the identical truck, the 250 and SRW 350 can and will handle the same load the exact same way. Food for thought.

Here are the part numbers for a 2012 F250 vs. F350. I chose 2012 as it is the year I own, but the results are the same if you search any year of the current generation from 11-15.

F250 Left Rear Axle BC3Z4234C
F250 Right Rear Axle BC3Z4234D

F350 Left Rear Axle BC3Z4234C
F350 Right Rear Axle BC3Z4234D

And here are the links to verify:

2012 F250 https://www.silverstatefordparts.com...R%20SUSPENSION


2012 F350 https://www.silverstatefordparts.com...R%20SUSPENSION


Here is a link to the question being asked directly to a Ford engineer when they were on the FTE forums answering questions about the 2015 update. They were only there to answer questions about 2015 so the MY is mentioned but is irrelevant as they are all the same. Meet the Team Behind the 2015 Ford F-Series Super Duty, May 1-May 16, 2014 - Page 9 - Ford Truck Enthusiasts Forums
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