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**Spdracr39** · 03-26-2018, 06:40 PM

well the new ones do have more torque than what I looked at but still those 3.55 gears ...

JIMNLIN · 03-26-2018, 07:21 PM

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Originally Posted by Audioguy16

Yup I got the payload info on the yellow sticker side door. Maybe the 2.7L is the factor?

Actually its those small 3300 rawr and small 6800 gvwr package.
Always do the rawr math as you load 1531 lb in the bed it will overload those small 3300 rawr.
Rawr = the lessor of a wheel/tire /axle and the rear spring pack.

A F150 rear axle may weigh in the 2200 lb range leaving approx 1100 lb payload in the bed.

But the truck payload sticker says 1530 lbs. This is a gvwr based payload to be spread over the trucks gvwr (front and rear axle).

No doubt the 2.7 eb engine can pull Fords tow ratings but this truck will need some rear suspension help and maybe higher capacity tires and wheels for that trailers loaded weight. Your call there.

Fleet Ford specs shows some F150 wth a 6700-6800 gvwr in certain cab selections and has a bit bigger 3800 rawr which will give the truck around 1500-1600 lb payload in the bed.

tuffr2 · 03-27-2018, 03:06 PM

Just got back from a Ford Dealer. I am really surprised at what I saw. It was opposite of what thought I would see.

Both were Lariat trim level, both 4 full doors with the same size bed.

A F-150 with a 2.7 litre eco-boost had a GVWR of 6,360 with a payload of 1,480.

A F-150 with a 5.0 litre had a GVWR of 6,800 with payload of 1,948.

Does the 5.0 litre engine weigh less than 2.7 litre eco-boost? Are there different axles? Why the difference?

Oh, the sales person was not interested in the GVWR or payload.

Said either truck can tow 8,000lbs easily. Even after I stressed weight tgat it can carry due to hitch weight on the truck.

Freqz · 03-27-2018, 03:56 PM

Dealers are oblivious to payload...the difference in those payloads is mostly in the GVWR.

Those new F150s sure are light though! My '13 was 7200 GVWR with 1136 payload

sejac55 · 03-27-2018, 05:05 PM

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Originally Posted by Audioguy16

Currently have a 2016 Ford F-150 Screw 3.55 2.7L Ecoboost
Payload 1531
GVWR 6500
GCVWR 12800
Towing Cap 7500
RGAWR 3300
I’m thinking of getting a Toy Hauler with Dry Weight of 4250. With 2 Sportbike in the bike I’m thinking of putting 1500lbs extra. Looking at
2018 Riverside RV Mt McKinley Mt. McKinley 827 With dry hitch of 420lbs.
Is my 2.7 Ecoboost enough? I’ve used the online calculators to determine my capacity and just want to make sure.

What is a 150 "SCREW"? By any chaance is it a 4x4? The term screw usually refers to a tandem axle with both axles having gears and both drive ...thus...a twin screw or a screw.

66joej · 03-27-2018, 05:30 PM

Screw stands for super crew cab.

2012TxSilvy · 03-29-2018, 03:08 PM

Yeah, salesman I went to looked at me funny when I started talking payload. Had my wife believing him to that it didn't matter for a bit until I put my foot down. Said he used to pull 20k with his tundra all the time. LoL

Audioguy16 · 03-30-2018, 12:53 PM

If I add Bilstein shocks and auto spring will that be a better tow vehicle?

tuffr2 · 03-30-2018, 05:48 PM

Tow with it the way it is for awhile, then you will know better what you want to do if anything.

You just might decide to trade the 2.7 for the 5.0...you never know

VanDiemen23 · 03-30-2018, 08:08 PM

I hope its flat where you plan to go.

They pulled the space shuttle with a Tacoma - once.

tuffr2 · 03-31-2018, 10:55 AM

I does not need to be flat with the Ford 2.7 litre eco-boost that has the torque to go up hill with a trailer. You have to ability to adjust the load some in the trailer to try to keep the hitch weight acceptable.

VanDiemen23 · 04-02-2018, 10:48 AM

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Originally Posted by tuffr2

I does not need to be flat with the Ford 2.7 litre eco-boost that has the torque to go up hill with a trailer. You have to ability to adjust the load some in the trailer to try to keep the hitch weight acceptable.

With all due respect, you live in Florida. Come out to the Mojave in July, and then tell me how great a 2.7L turbo is on an 8% grade at 112 deg ambient.

I rarely hear anyone complain about buying too much tow capacity. I hear a LOT of regrets when they were penny rich and pound foolish and were looking to save a few bucks on gas or the engine option. If you wouldn't pull it with a V6 or V8 mini-pickup, why would you pull the same load with a truck that has the same HP/Torque and a a thousand pounds more truck?

The manufacturers didn't build these small turbo motors because they thought it was an acceptable replacement for a V-6. They did it because of increasing CAFE requirements and they know that somewhere out there are folks that use a truck like a car and will probably not notice the difference.

archer75 · 04-02-2018, 11:39 AM

Would the lighter weight of the new F150's be an issue controlling a trailer? Especially when passing, high winds, etc.

2012TxSilvy · 04-02-2018, 11:51 AM

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Originally Posted by archer75

Would the lighter weight of the new F150's be an issue controlling a trailer? Especially when passing, high winds, etc.

I'm thinking yes, my truck pulls great when the wind isn't high and I'm not close to a bunch of semis. New truck is a 2017 3.5l screw. Trying to think of ways to improve that. Truck pulls like a dream though. Just need some stability. Hoping I don't have to think about new tires already though. Shocks may be in order to help.