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Old 07-20-2015, 04:47 PM   #1
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Everyday driving big truck

Looking to possibly move from MH to truck + fifth wheel but have some concerns. With the vast knowledge of IRV2 people, please help.

Biggest issue we have with the MH is the constant driving correction. This caused major fatigue and feels loose. Dealer keeps telling us its normal. Well if we move to the truck fifth wheel will this go away? Truck in the 350 or 3500.

The truck would be a daily drive. 2008 - 2011 Ford as an example. Dealer is telling us, do not do this for the truck is going to have problems. They are made to be worked hard not as a to and from work, light lode use. We would pull a few weekends and 2 long trips a year?

If not a diesel, then what? Fifth wheel in the 10 - 15k weight range?

We will not be purchasing a new tv but used.

Thanks for your help.
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Find a real truck shop and have the MH front end checked by a qualified front end mechanic. Wandering can be corrected easily and unless a lot of worn parts are found relatively cheap.
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:06 PM   #3
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The truck would be a daily drive. 2008 - 2011 Ford as an example. Dealer is telling us, do not do this for the truck is going to have problems. They are made to be worked hard not as a to and from work, light lode use. We would pull a few weekends and 2 long trips a year?

If not a diesel, then what? Fifth wheel in the 10 - 15k weight range?

We will not be purchasing a new tv but used.

Thanks for your help.

A diesel SRW pickup is fine for your application. Not sure why a dealer would tell you the truck will have problems if used as a daily driver. That's absolute nonsense. Modern diesel's can be used as a soccer mom mover or towing heavy every day. Makes no difference one way or the other.
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Old 07-20-2015, 06:31 PM   #4
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A diesel SRW pickup is fine for your application. Not sure why a dealer would tell you the truck will have problems if used as a daily driver. That's absolute nonsense. Modern diesel's can be used as a soccer mom mover or towing heavy every day. Makes no difference one way or the other.

Agreed with this. I drove my 2012 3500 for 6 months as a daily driver before retiring. No problems. Now we travel during the summer and it is parked all winter except for a few short trips to Lowes. Ready again when the summer comes. Modern trucks can handle any form of driving. Maybe problems with the older ones but not today.


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Old 07-20-2015, 07:05 PM   #5
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No wandering or stressful driving with my F150 pulling an 8,400lb FW or with the F350 pulling a 12,000lb FW. Nothing like my old class A or class C. I do call the F350 "the beast" driving around town but it's not really all that bad.
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Old 07-20-2015, 07:19 PM   #6
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I drove a 2008 F350 diesel for many years as a driver and puller. Yes the diesels like to be worked, so temperatures raise in exhaust. This cleans out soot in the Exhaust Gas Recirculation (EGR) - burns it off like charcoal being burnt off your barbecue. Lots of cold runs to the store, and engine not getting to operating temperature does build up soot in diesels vs gassers, but certainly this is not as prevalant as in the past when old diesels ran old diesel. The spec on diesel fuel today prevents a lot of engine soot/crud build up as diesel fuels are much cleaner today (more refined to remove sulfur)

That being said, todays technology and diesel fuel spec - I call bull kaka on the dealer comments.

Oh, new emissions (EPA 2007) with the Diesel Particulate Filter (DPF) does require some frequent sustained driving to regenerate the DPF. Was a concern when this technology first came out, but the OEMs have eliminated some of the earlier problems with real world tuning/re-engineering.

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As a 3/4 ton truck owner, let me warn you of the limitations of any single rear wheel pickup truck. I'd only have a diesel in RV service, and they really don't need to have a fifth wheel with more than 2,000 lbs. kingpin weight (dry.)

Full size fifth wheel trailers often weigh 14,000 lbs.+, and 3,000 lbs. kingpin weight. They really need a dual rear wheel 1 ton diesel truck for stability and handling safety.

I bought a 11,000 lb./2,000 lb. pin weight fifth wheel trailer that matches my truck perfectly.
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Old 07-21-2015, 10:57 AM   #8
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You do not say what motorhome you have. It's length, gas or diesel. it's wheel base ratio. Some motorhomes drive like S@@@ Some drive like big cars.

Till it is determined what you have, no one has the ability to help with how your motorhome should drive.

The thought of going to a diesel '08-'11 as a daily driver, I believe the Dealer is giving you some good advise. '11 and up Fords and GM use DEF fluid to help keep the emissions in check. But, doging a diesel around town, not getting it hot is just not what it was designed for.

The '08 Ford 6.4L was a problem engine, So probably a bit of time on the Ford Forum would be time well spent. '11 was the first year for the new 6.7L engine and you know you never buy first year anything.

A 5th wheel will have about 20-23% of it's loaded weight on the pin. I am on my 3rd DRW truck, hooked up, it is so stable you can forget you have 7-8 tons behind you. But it is not my daily driver, my Honda CRV is.

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One handed relaxed towing right here! 32,540# combined.

Traveled with friends that had a 40' MH in 45 mph winds. Made it to our destination he looked FRAZZLED! I was composed and relaxed. Then he started asking me questions about our TV and RV!.

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One handed relaxed towing right here! 32,540# combined.

Traveled with friends that had a 40' MH in 45 mph winds. Made it to our destination he looked FRAZZLED! I was composed and relaxed. Then he started asking me questions about our TV and RV!.

Do you need a CDL to tow that much weight where your from? That's 6,540 lbs over the 26,000 lb limit isn't it?
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One handed relaxed towing right here! 32,540# combined.

Traveled with friends that had a 40' MH in 45 mph winds. Made it to our destination he looked FRAZZLED! I was composed and relaxed. Then he started asking me questions about our TV and RV!.

So, you're saying you like your truck and trailer? How come you've been hiding this for so long?
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Do you need a CDL to tow that much weight where your from? That's 6,540 lbs over the 26,000 lb limit isn't it?

CDL is not required for vehicles in private use in most states. Look at most Class A diesel pushers with a GCWR of 40k plus. No problem.
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I wonder why a dually pulling a 5th wheel does not get affected by the wind very much? I will notice a head wind vs a tail wind by my mpg display. Have yet to notice any cross winds.
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I wonder why a dually pulling a 5th wheel does not get affected by the wind very much? I will notice a head wind vs a tail wind by my mpg display. Have yet to notice any cross winds.

Because the pin weight is directly over the rear axle. Four contact points vs. two cuts down on lateral push from the wind...
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