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Old 12-18-2012, 08:07 PM   #15
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You might want to compare the resale value as a percentage of original MSRP of, let's say, a 2004 5.9L Cummins-powered Ram and a 6.0L Powerstroke-equipped Ford.

I've not experienced electrical wiring problems with my 1996, 2002 or 2011 Rams. I'm not aware of electrical systems being a chronic problem.

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Rusty, no fair picking on Ford using the 6.0L as an example. Look back at the 2000 to 2002 with the 7.3L and see what they are selling for.

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Rams are generaly cheaper than Fords or GM trucks. We picked up a 2012 this yr for close to $10,000 off MSRP. Neither GM nor Ford had anything like that going when we bought ours. I've been a Ford guy for as long as I can remember, but this Ram is just as nice. Plus the Cummins has been around for a long time in it's currrent form opposed to the fords 6.7. Nothing against the D/A as it's proven to be a great diesel combo. Just don't care for GM trucks. Plus in my area they think they have the last ones and won't think of discounting. They are now since the 13's are comming out and they have a huge back log of trucks. But when we were looking back in July they had no specials. I also like the fact that the Cummins still uses the CP.3 istead of the CP.4 HPFP. Not sure on the 13's though. But I was never thinking of getting a 13 anyway.
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Old 12-19-2012, 01:46 PM   #17
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I have 27000 dollars to buy a dually truck and you know you cann't buy a new truck for 27,000 so I'm looking for good used truck which is hard to find. Hate to spend 27,000 on a lemon or a truck that will have future problems.
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If you're buying a used diesel, I would stay far, far away from any 6.0 Power Stroke Ford. I bought a 2005 F350 PSC new, gave it meticulous maintenance and have never owned such an unreliable vehicle of any kind. Short list of problems: vacuum pump, oil cooler, EGR cooler, glow plugs (twice), glow plug wiring harness, glow plug control module, Fuel Injector Control Module, and the last straw - turbocharger. Read any diesel truck magazine and you'll find full page adds detailing all the stuff you need to buy to fix the 6.0. You can even buy a kit to install a Cummins in a Ford. I finally got smart and traded for a 2012 Dodge Ram.
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If you're buying a used diesel, I would stay far, far away from any 6.0 Power Stroke Ford. I bought a 2005 F350 PSC new, gave it meticulous maintenance and have never owned such an unreliable vehicle of any kind. Short list of problems: vacuum pump, oil cooler, EGR cooler, glow plugs (twice), glow plug wiring harness, glow plug control module, Fuel Injector Control Module, and the last straw - turbocharger. Read any diesel truck magazine and you'll find full page adds detailing all the stuff you need to buy to fix the 6.0. You can even buy a kit to install a Cummins in a Ford. I finally got smart and traded for a 2012 Dodge Ram.
Thanks for the information and I will stay away from a Ford 6.0 diesel. If I buy a Dodge I will make sure it has the Cummins engine. What engines should I stay away from?
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The pre-2010 Ford's had the diesels with the most problems and it is reflected in the prices for a used truck which I found to be $3-5k less than a comparable Chevy diesel. Chevy had its share of problems in particular with the early 2008 engines and the 2002-2004 engines. Ram has had problems too based on reliability reports.

2010 is when overall all three companies got most of the kinks worked out and started to produce reliable diesel pickups. If I was going to get an older truck it would be a 2006-07 with the Duramax LBZ engine. I did not want a truck with high mileage as that affects every part on the truck so I ended up getting a new 2011 Chevy with the LML engine which includes an exhaust brake and the Allison transmission.
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