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Old 06-08-2016, 09:17 PM   #1
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F 350 Diesel Vs. gasoline

Just got back from dealership, just looking around and doing some research.

Looking for 6 seat belts with high payload. Will use for towing 20 weekends per year. Also expect to have this truck for 15 years.

How many miles have to be on a new gas & diesel truck before towing?
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I wouldn't decide based on miles towed, but on what you tow (weight) and where (hills). As a daily driver there won't be much difference between gas and diesel, but towing diesel will get better fuel economy. If you are only using it for towing, it would be cheaper to buy a nicely equipped 6.0 and bullet proof it.
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I don't know how many miles but I towed with my Ram shortly after getting home from the dealership.
For longevity you really can't beat a cummins. The I6 has 40% less parts than a V8. Less to go wrong. More reliable and easier to work on. It's what you'll find in most big rigs, a inline 6.
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Diesel? Tow from day one. Gas? Read the manual.

My Ram 2500 diesel manual said towing or carrying cargo was the best way to break in the engine and would help increase fuel mileage.
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F 350 Diesel Vs. gasoline

My 2016 Ram 3500 DRW diesel-owners manual says
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CAUTION!

Do not tow a trailer at all during the first 500 miles (805 km) the new vehicle is driven. The engine, axle or other parts could be damaged.

Then, during the first 500 miles (805 km) that a trailer is towed, do not drive over 50 mph (80 km/h) and do not make starts at full throttle. This helps the engine and other parts of the vehicle wear in at the heavier loads.

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For all intents and purposes for me, I can't tow for the first 1k miles.
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My 2016 Ram 3500 DRW diesel-owners manual says
Interesting. My '14 diesel supplement states:
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NOTE: Light duty operation such as light trailer towing
or no load operation will extend the time before the
engine is at full efficiency. Reduced fuel economy and
power may be seen at this time.
The "standard" manual states:
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A long break-in period is not required for the engine and
drivetrain (transmission and axle) in your vehicle.
Drive moderately during the first 300 miles (500 km).
After the initial 60 miles (100 km), speeds up to 50 or
55 mph (80 or 90 km/h) are desirable.
There must be some significant differences between our two trucks to have such different break in recommendations.
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There must be some significant differences between our two trucks to have such different break in recommendations.
They are all made of machined metals. It would only be common sense to not load the parts more that necessary till they have mated.
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So are the engines, transmissions, etc., of class 8 tractors, but there is no similar warning for those machines. Those rigs are bought to pull big weight from the get-go.
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My 2016 Ram 3500 DRW diesel-owners manual says
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CAUTION!

Do not tow a trailer at all during the first 500 miles (805 km) the new vehicle is driven. The engine, axle or other parts could be damaged.

Then, during the first 500 miles (805 km) that a trailer is towed, do not drive over 50 mph (80 km/h) and do not make starts at full throttle. This helps the engine and other parts of the vehicle wear in at the heavier loads.

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For all intents and purposes for me, I can't tow for the first 1k miles.
I have an 08 Ram with the 6.7L Cummins engine in the truck. My manual stated not to tow any vehicle within the first 500 miles to allow the differential gearing to be broken in correctly and the gas engine. In the Diesel Supplemental book that was issue with the truck; the book stated that the Cummins engine needs no break in period. So for me this is only for the differential gearing in the truck, which all truck manufactures state in some form or another for their pick-up trucks.
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Thanks for the details here, I will check a manual before purchase! Sounds like at least 500 - 1,000 miles would be safe practice before towing.

Looking to tow 3k miles over a two week period this fall and want to make sure I buy in plenty of time.

My reason for looking at super duty trucks is for payload... I wish someone would just make a 3/4 ton SUV again...
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I wish someone would just make a 3/4 ton SUV again...
You're not alone! My 03 Yukon XL 2500 is starting to get old.
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Never once, has anyone said, I hate having too much truck with all this power making it so easy to pull this giant load over the mountains, and I WISH I had a gas engine that would be mashed all the way to the floor and only going 30 mph up this hill and why are all those Yugo's passing me.

If you ever try pulling a trailer of any sort with a diesel engine with exhaust brakes, you will remove the word gas out of your vocabulary forever.

I would avoid a Ford. There is just too much bad history with thier engines. (This is where Ford owners unite to fight back) I have many friends who have thrown their Ford diesels as far down off a cliff as possible and the ones remaining that are still running all say they wished they had what I have.
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Just called and Dealership service department says can start towing Diesel truck with no prep or miles...

I like the comments here about getting at least 500 miles in first
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Just an FYI. I'm not an AntiFordite. I'm just not a Ford fan but I really do have some buddoes that have had Fords blow apart. One buddy works at a power plant. They had 6 in on batch that were so bad they had the dealer come back and get them. And when our group meets at our annual river trip, they're always wanting my Dodge. Pulling on our first trip farther than 20 miles this past weekened, heading down I35 going with traffic. I look down and I'm doing 85. It never even felt like it. Sheeze.
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