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Old 10-28-2013, 10:17 PM   #1
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F350 5th wheel hitch

Is there anybody using the hitch that ford sells with there new F350s and if so how do you like it
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Old 10-29-2013, 08:28 AM   #2
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Don't have one, but if you are considering buying a Ford with the inbed mounts, then take a look at the new B&W Companion hitch designed for this application.
The factory Ford hitch is a Reese and supposedly a good one, but also heard it is overpriced as a $1695 option.
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We bought a 13 Ford with the factory hitch mounts, which also come with the gooseneck mount. And the wiring plug in the bed also, and trailer brake controller and bed liner. The dealer sold us the 18K Reese fiver hitch for $1100. A 25K is also offered. I have Reese hitches in other trucks and wouldn't buy anything else. I didn't need the slider model which is $1800 in the 18K model. Way cheaper to have this all factory installed then to do it after the fact.
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KSCRUDE--all very good info, especially the pricing.
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Old 10-29-2013, 10:05 AM   #5
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When you buy a new truck, you're an idiot if you pay sticker price. So the discounted cash price you pay includes discounts on all the options too. The markup on most options is at least 10%, so when you buy a new truck with the Ford-installed 5er/gooseneck prep pkg you're paying around invoice price, not MSRP, for that pkg. And if you also order the hitch (in addition to the prep pkg), you'll get the invoice price on that too.

If your new Ford has the factory prep pkg but not the hitch, then you can still negotiate the price of the hitch from the dealer and not have to pay full MSRP. But even a discounted price from the parts department will be more than the invoice cost if you order the hitch from the factory as part of the new truck.

That's another good reason to plan ahead and order your new truck exactly the way you want it, and not rely on finding one in stock that is exactly what you want (and are willing to pay for).

Some of the new-car websites include the invoice cost on their build&price pages. If you build and price a new Ford on Edmunds.com, for example, you can see exactly how much the invoice cost is for the prep kit and the hitch. It will be a lot less than the aftermarket discount price from some place such as etrailer.com. Plus a big chunk of the cost of installing an under-the-bed 5er hitch is the labor cost. The cost of labor is included when you order the prep kit as part of the new vehicle, so in effect it's less than zero.
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the F-350 comes with a 18K hitch. the F-450 comes with a 25K hitch. It is the Reese Elite hitch with the under bed mounting system. The hitch prep package gives you the mount, and the 7-pin connector in the bed. It may also provide the TBC, I don't remember, but mine was included with one of the packages. So you want to check into prices of the hitches and just get the prep package.
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I have under bed mount hitch package on my 2012 F-450 with the 25K Reese Elite Hitch. I like the hitch. It makes hooking and unhooking easy. I painted the jaw white so it is easier to see when hooking up. I can not however reach the pin to unhook/hook unless standing on a small step.
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Don't have one, but if you are considering buying a Ford with the inbed mounts, then take a look at the new B&W Companion hitch designed for this application.
The factory Ford hitch is a Reese and supposedly a good one, but also heard it is overpriced as a $1695 option.
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I believe the Reese elite is the drop in:

Reese elite around $1269 and up
Reese Elite 5th Wheel Hitch - Best Price & Free Shipping on Reese Elite Series Fifth Wheel Trailer Hitches for Trucks
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I believe the Reese elite is the drop in:
Yes, the Reese Elite series 5er hitch is the one that fits into the Ford factory prep kit. But Ford is selling so many pickups with the optional 5er/gooseneck prep kits that others have developed compatible 5er hitches. B&W is one of those others:
B&W Companion OEM 5th-Wheel Hitch for Ford Super Duty Prep Package - Dual Jaw - 20,000 lbs B and W Fifth Wheel BWRVK3300

The Ford prep kit includes both 5er and gooseneck holes in the bed. The Reese Elite uses the 5er holes, but the B&W Companion uses the gooseneck hole.

The Reese Elite comparable to that B&W knockoff costs a bit more:
Reese Elite Series Pre-Assembled 5th Wheel Trailer Hitch w/ Wiring Harness - Single Jaw - 18,000 lbs Reese Fifth Wheel RP30142

I don't have a clue as to which one might be the "better" hitch, but I've had excellent service with Reese products, so I'd probably spend a bit more to get the Reese.
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Yes, the Reese Elite series 5er hitch is the one that fits into the Ford factory prep kit. But Ford is selling so many pickups with the optional 5er/gooseneck prep kits that others have developed compatible 5er hitches. B&W is one of those others:
B&W Companion OEM 5th-Wheel Hitch for Ford Super Duty Prep Package - Dual Jaw - 20,000 lbs B and W Fifth Wheel BWRVK3300

The Ford prep kit includes both 5er and gooseneck holes in the bed. The Reese Elite uses the 5er holes, but the B&W Companion uses the gooseneck hole.

The Reese Elite comparable to that B&W knockoff costs a bit more:
Reese Elite Series Pre-Assembled 5th Wheel Trailer Hitch w/ Wiring Harness - Single Jaw - 18,000 lbs Reese Fifth Wheel RP30142

I don't have a clue as to which one might be the "better" hitch, but I've had excellent service with Reese products, so I'd probably spend a bit more to get the Reese.
The Reese hitch has a larger adjustment height with a lower overall setting too. I am pretty sure that the head can be removed separately for man handling.
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Get the hitch prep from Ford when you order the truck. Then buy your hitch from an online vendor. The Reese Elite is the exact hitch you will get from Ford without the Ford markup. The best price you can get on it is from etrailer.com. Not because they have the best price to begin with, but because they have a 110% low price guarantee. So find the best price on a Reese Elite on the net, order from etrailer, have them do the price match plus 10% of the difference and you have the best price possible. Free shipping there too. Then you can sell the wiring that comes with the Elite on eBay for $50 or so. I did the whole deal last year for my truck and ended up with a Reese Elite 18K for under $800. They are up in price a little since then but it will still be much lower than a dealer price even if it's discounted. And, to answer your question, yes, it's a great hitch!
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I am pretty sure that the head can be removed separately for man handling.
Yes, the link in my earlier post to the Elite Series 18k hitch includes this blurb:

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Complete Truck-Bed Access

Once your Elite Series fifth-wheel hitch is installed, you can easily remove it for complete access to your truck bed. The fifth-wheel head removes with just two pins and is easy to lift. Then you can unlock and disengage the base legs from the Power Puck rail mounting system and remove them as well. All that you will be left with is four small cavities that sit flush in your truck-bed floor - no rails, no bolts.
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I ordered the 5th wheel prep and the hitch and got the 25K hitch and the 4 holes for the hitch. I did not get the hole for the gooseneck. Maybe that needs to be ordered separately like: 5th wheel and gooseneck prep.
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I ordered the 5th wheel prep and the hitch and got the 25K hitch and the 4 holes for the hitch. I did not get the hole for the gooseneck.
Weird. Perhaps the gooseneck provision is there, but you must cut a hole in the bed to use it? Here's the prep kit blurb from the order guide for a 2012 F-450:

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06/01/11 2012 SUPER DUTY® PICK-UP PROPRIETARY
(F-250 / F-350 / F-450)
PACKAGED OPTIONS/EMISSIONS
5TH WHEEL/GOOSENECK HITCH PREP PACKAGE (53W)
Includes:
• One Frame under-bed cross member
• Five pickup bed attachment points with plugs
• One integrated 7-pin connector on driver's side pick-up bed wall
...
Gooseneck Hitch Compatibility:
• The 5th Wheel/Gooseneck prep package (53W) is compatible only
with the factory orderable Gooseneck Hitch Kit (15J) or dealer installed
Ford Customer Accessories Gooseneck hitch by Reese -
part # BC3Z-19F503-A (8 ft box and 6.75 ft box)
Here's the Elite™ Under-Bed Gooseneck Accessories Kit

Reese Part No. ... Description
30137 Elite™ Series Under-Bed Gooseneck Accessories Kit (Includes: (1) 2-5/16" Pop-In™ Ball #19311, (1) Storage Bag, (2) Safety Chain Attachments & (1) Hole Cover)


Does your F-450 not have 5 holes in the bed?
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