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Old 05-30-2012, 07:47 AM   #15
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PS: We can get about 2 weeks on our water tank. The limiting factor is the shower gray tank.
If you live in an area under severe drought conditions, you'll hear the city fathers advising folks to conserve water by saving the bath water and dish water and pouring it on the plants outdoors that need a drink. There is no reason the "grey" water from the shower has to go down the sewer. Drain it into a bucket and pour it on nearby trees and bushes.

When I was a little tyke back in the 1940s, our farm house didn't have a water heater or a sewer drain. The toilet was an outhouse out back, so there was no "black" water. Water was heated on a wood stove. Mom washed dishes in a dishpan. She washed clothes and we took baths in a #2 or #3 wash tub. We poured the dish and laundry and bath water on plants outside the house. Reminds me of tent camping before my first RV in 1968. We all survived to old age.

We made a "bumper" crop in 1949 and built a new house with hot and cold running water and a sewer system (cesspool, now illegal, replaced with a septic tank over 40 years ago). What luxury to take a shower and let the water go down the drain.

So your limiting factor is not the size of your grey water tank. It's the size of your fresh water tank.
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Old 05-30-2012, 07:13 PM   #16
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I know this topic has been discussed at GREAT length and I've researched the stickie section here and various charts on Ford truck specs. My wife and I are looking into our first 5'er and I want to confirm my max pin weight. The F-350 is a 2006 super duty SRW, 325 hp, 6.0 turbo diesel, 3.73 gears, 12,500 tow rating, 1250 tongue weight, front GAWR 6000, rear GAWR 7000, GVWR 11,500, 18" tires, 172 WB, 6000 lb gross carrying weight (taken from door jam) and from the best I can tell a curb weight of 6957 which I determined from a Ford truck spec chart based on the above info. Given the GVWR minus the curb weight I get 4543 max for gas, cargo, passengers, etc. My issue is trying to determine what is the max pin weight for this truck for which I assume is taken in combination with any other bed payload and how much gas is in the tank. The 5'er we're looking at has a dry weight of 10,812 and a hitch weight of 2080 (there will not be a w/d in the front bedroom) and a GVWR of 14,800. Is this doable and safe? I've learned through experience to not trust RV dealer sales people as has been mentioned here so I thought I'd come to you guys seeing you have the experience and knowledge. Your opinions are greatly appreciated, thanks!
Your situation was normal every day driving for me when I was hauling trailers. Lots of good information has been given by the previous posts with out a doubt but there is one item that needs to be considered above all in a srw truck. Please check the load rating of your tires! Different brands sizes and load ranges will vary greatly in what there able to carry. There are so many different brand of tires that come out on trucks and each of them will be rated differently. You stand a better chance of blowing a tire out on your truck than you will running beyond the capacity of the chassis (imho). Now, I'm not advocating being unsafe or breaking the law by any means but please spend the time to consider what those tires can handle. I've hauled tri axle toy haulers with my short box srw and never had any problems but you can dang sure bet that the truck tires are the weak link. In fairness I also have to mention that every thing that I hauled was brand new and therefore dry.

As others have said the CAT scale is your friend and is cheap insurance, they will go to court with you if you have a valid scale slip saying your inside your weight rating. Also, you don't want to know what a blown E rated tire does to the side of a truck bed.
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If you live in an area under severe drought conditions, you'll hear the city fathers advising folks to conserve water by saving the bath water and dish water and pouring it on the plants outdoors that need a drink. There is no reason the "grey" water from the shower has to go down the sewer. Drain it into a bucket and pour it on nearby trees and bushes.

So your limiting factor is not the size of your grey water tank. It's the size of your fresh water tank.
We traveled the entire western half of the US from Florida to Wisconsin to Washington to California and even thru Texas, Dallas and San Antonio. The only place we found that it wasnít prohibited to put your gray water on the ground was in Fort Smith, Arkansas. So you are correct when we were in the camp ground in Ft Smith the limiting factor was our water tank.

Gee I forgot we had access to a water line and electric in Ft Smith so I guess our limiting factor was the Black Tank. LOL

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PS: The last line is meant in a joking manner please donít take offense.
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Texas State Parks and COE parks prohibit gray water discharge on the ground.

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